tB-online-interpreter-idea

[ReneMiner]

Imagine some site on tB-forum which shows

2 "output-windows" (console & graphics - preferred TBGL-window)
1 input-window ("script-editor")

+ Execute-Button that would allow to run tB-scripts online.

Even more cool if one could directly run posted script-examples from any thread in forum by sending it to the Online-Interpreter.

Probably it would need some kind of HTML-controls to display console & graphics-window (no idea about that matter) which finally could be embedded to any other website too, to run tB-scripts in Browser.

Future:

Maybe later also thinkeable some attacheable link to an uploaded (zip?-)folder in users profile (downloadeable?) that could be treated as "App_Scriptpath" (at least Read-Only), where the #Included Units, Incs and other needed resources can be stored.

tB as embeddeable script-language for online-presentations,
tB instantly online useable

enormous time & HD-space-saver for users that want to try some posted example
combined with online-help much higher learning curve since examples get tested by users more

fun!

lot of work :(

[Petr Schreiber]

Hi Rene,

the idea is good, as usually. Before going into this direction I think these intermediate steps need to be done:

Introduce something like "Security Profile" - using File_Kill in online scripts could be nice security hole allowing the hackers to do some damage
Increase stability of the modules - inproper usage ends with GPF instead of RunTimeError in some cases
Have a dedicated server to handle these requests - there can be lot of them and I don't want to have for example slower forum


Regarding the second point, I started to do some research, where I go module-by-module and identify places, where usage can cause GPF (crash). I think this is important step, stability is a big priority for me as of now.


Petr

[ReneMiner]

Hi Petr,

of course, of course you are right. Let's think of smaller steps.

Maybe there could be some other way to run the code on the users PC instead of letting the server calculate:

grab code from web-site,
save scripts temporary on users pc in a web-cache-subfolder (also add needed resources if some)

invoke the execution through LOCAL tB-installation
- possibly some tB-forum-cookie could secure the path in local registry.

it would allow to use any module, multiple windows, no problems checking for Input as Mouse & Keyboard,
no in-browser-console-control nor any special in-browser-TBGL-output-control were needed

- just local tB-installation & forum-membership required

...and some execute-button on the forums pages that appears below posted code would have to be coded.
perhaps grab attached files from post if some and copy these to temp-folder too.

[matthew]

I don't know if either of you knew but you can now use newLISP in your browser if you visit this (http://www.newlisp.org/newlisp-js/) webpage.

It's quite interesting to mess about with. :-D

[ReneMiner]

Intentionally it's more like I want to post some "interactive image" to facebook or google+ etc. but the "image" shall be a TBGL-Window.
So to say, my post displays some running TBGL-script (runs on click) and the postet "image" acts like a TBGL-Window (Input etc.)

Imagine the possibilities...

[SteveOW]

... but you can now use newLISP in your browser...

... and a similar browser- & server-based BASIC with code, console, graphics windows is PhysGL at http://www.physgl.org/.

For me the holy grail is to get a browser-based BASIC IDE with code editor and run-time debugger but for now I am having to use javascript and for me it is a bit difficult :(

[matthew]

That PhysGL site looks impressive, there's an app available for Chrome called Nitrous.IO (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nitrousio-web-app/kcbmakmdbnehgbakmgibcpjpafenmohd?hl=en) which lets you write code in your browser/cloud. Several languages are supported, however BASIC isn't one of them. :-(

[ReneMiner]

still the idea there could be some thinBasic-webBrowser-PlugIn :) - resulting in a boost of active users number #'''''