D.U.M.B.s

[danbaron]

Is it beyond reason to think that, maybe the hidden "Illuminati" which we hear so many rumors about, actually exist, and, are above any government with respect to power?

Politicians demonstrate daily that they are primarily concerned with helping themselves. They would refuse to be compromised by a secret institution, which is the most powerful in the world? Especially when, the alternative is very unpleasant (In Mexico, the drug cartels have a saying concerning government officials, "Silver or lead.")?

Is it beyond the possible that there are underground cities, which the "Illuminati" have access to?

That currently, they come and go from these places, and when, according to their plans, life on Earth's surface becomes impossible (due to their own machinations, actions), they will seek refuge in them until we are all dead?

(Today, it is underground cities. What would it be in the future? Probably, "tickets" onto huge spaceships headed permanently off of Earth. After you destroy this planet, move on, and leave those "beneath you", to their fates, yes?)

I wonder if as the Titanic sank, those in the most expensive cabins were the ones most likely to give up their seats in the lifeboats to children.

Hitler had his own underground complex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Führerbunker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerbunker)

After WW2, the allies secretly welcomed the Nazi scientists with open arms.

We are propagandized to believe that what happened in Nazi Germany (basically, the intentional extermination of a segment of the country's own population), was a once in (evolved, civilized) history event. Was it really?

I don't know how many times I have heard that the Illuminati are trying to reduce Earth's population from 7 billion, to 500 million. It must be a lie?

(We can see it ourselves. The more people there are, the harder life becomes. We are like rats in a big cage. The Illuminati are in the cage too. They wouldn't wish to make it less crowded?)

If those at the top will collaborate with Nazis, when doing so helps them, then, what would those at the top be unwilling to do?

Do you think it would be more beneficial for those at the top to be known by humanity, or to remain hidden?

(Also, hiding implies cowardice, yes? You also see it with any military or "intelligence" operation. The last thing the aggressor participants want is a fair fight. The truth of the matter is, they try to give the victims no chance of surviving. An example is the use of drones. You can inflict death from the safety and comfort of your desktop.)

Is it impossible that events such as 9/11, are actually operations of said Illuminati?

My experience is that people in groups tend to act crazily. If so, should we expect that a hidden group, which is more powerful than any other, would not do so?

Who would be more ready and willing to facilitate and watch the deaths of everyone else, than, those hidden at the very top, for whom no amount of anything they want, is enough, and who have much much more of a sense of self-entitlement, than we can imagine (otherwise, how did they get to the top (unless as an accident of birth)?)? The more narcissistic you are, the more you feel and believe, that you deserve everything good, and nothing bad, correct?

Is it impossible to believe that those at the top keep hidden much of the most advanced technology, for their own benefit? Such technology could not enable the undetected construction of underground cities?

Concerning the following link, I don't know how many times I have heard that there have been, "demonstrations", in which the computers inside nuclear missile silos have refused to function.

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/10/the-fall-of-the-illuminati-appears-near/

[kryton9]

All good and fair questions Dan. But we will not be told the true answers. I think of Governor Fife Symington during the Phoenix Lights. He couldn't get any answers in that famous case, even though he himself saw the giant craft and being also a pilot wanted to know what it was. Even with his connections in a high office he was denied.

[danbaron]

Concerning the Phoenix Lights, I saw this useless article yesterday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44821641/ns/technology_and_science/t/were-strange-lights-over-phoenix-really-ufo/

He declares,

"Like many sightings of three lights in the sky, this UFO (or UFOs) was reported by the eyewitnesses as 'seeming to form a perfect triangle.' In fact, this description is clearly wrong, as we can tell from the video. Perfect triangles are those with numerically equal integer area and perimeter, which this was not. Perhaps the witness meant that the lights formed an equilateral triangle (whose sides are of equal length), but that's not correct either, since the formation at its clearest looks somewhat like a capital A on its side, and the lights are not equidistant."

After lecturing on what constitutes a perfect triangle, he says,

"But enough geometry pedantics — the fact is that any three lights in the sky, whether connected or not, will form a triangle. There's nothing particularly mysterious about that shape.".

Unfortunately, technically (as in his technical exposition about an equilateral triangle not being "perfect"), "Professor" Radford is wrong.

Obviously, three lights on a straight line would not form any type of triangle.

[Charles Pegge]

Dan, any tremors beneath your house recently? :)



You may have heard that two vast underground areas that housed Illuminati-controlled laboratories, vehicles, weaponry, storehouses and living quarters were destroyed, but it was by safe technologies, not nuclear devices; and some within the Illuminati camp have been removed from power, but not by killing them. As both defensive and offensive measures, the light forces use only the power of light and technologies that have no harmful aftereffects. They are aware of Illuminati plans, and if those include rigging major bridges with explosives that can be detonated remotely, they are authorized to prevent that. While that might seem to be a violation of Creator’s law of free will, it is not—it is the honoring of Earth’s free will. After 9/11, she chose that any further attempt at terrorism on that scale would be prevented, and by God’s authorization, our universal family has successfully thwarted many attempts.

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/matthew10-10-11.html



This takedown of the dark cabal is at present our primary objective. The dark and its many associates have for far too long stood in the way of both the distribution of the prosperity funds and the transfers of governance. Our liaison teams, together with selected personnel from Agartha, are leading the charge to get this done, and done quickly. We have damaged beyond repair most of their important North American underground bases and the adjacent interconnected tunnel system. We have sabotaged a series of plans intended to ravage North America and thus prevent your legal accession to power. The next step is not only to isolate them and deny them the use of their exotic weapons, but to arrest enough of their subordinates to leave no doubt in their minds that the end has come. All now hinges on their surrender, as do the deliveries that lead to the rise of new governance. Announcements will then signal a new beginning for your world!
...
Then there was a flurry of bold maneuvers this summer which terminated the existence of many dark-run underground facilities and their access tunnels. These actions led to the arrest of tens of thousands of dark subordinates.

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/sheldan04-10-11.html




The underground bases, of which we have spoken in the past which harbor those factions of the Illuminati who have created the most resistance to these changes, have indeed been destroyed with no loss of life we have been able to detect. A clear message has been sent to some of the last hold outs to the agreements already in place for the surrender of the Illuminati and their capitulation in your affairs. Other sources have begun to report on these events and the Illuminati needs no confirmation of what has occurred. That message, as we have been able to monitor through the emotions and thoughts of those it affected, has been received quite forcefully. They are now aware there is no alternative and this is their end.

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/wanderer07-10-11.html




This Pentagon faction now joins the U.S. military faction that has also vowed to support a return of constitutional government. It has been reported by channels of the Galactic Federation that cabal controlled rogue elements of the U.S. military have agreed to stand down and not bear arms against the forces of the new alliance. These major developments, coming on the heels of the destruction of two major Illuminati underground complexes and the refusal by a growing number of aligned nations to accept or trade with Federal Reserve dollars has now forced the once dominant cabal into a corner, leaving complete surrender as the only remaining option for them. The surrender or incarceration of the leading members of the cabal will then open the door for immediate Galactic Federation disclosure announcements and open contact with our cosmic family of light, paving the way for a return to a golden age and ascension for humanity into a higher dimensional existence. As my Pleiadian guides have recently advised, “Hold on to your seats, we promise you an amazing ride



http://ascensionearth2012.blogspot.com/2011/09/pentagon-now-joins-87-country-alliance.html

[danbaron]

I'll have to take awhile to digest all of this stuff.

I was just looking on Steve Beckow's website, trying to determine who Matthew Ward is.

I can find a photograph of him, I think when he was 17.

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Now, with your links, maybe I can learn something.

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I have heard solitary shocks.

I remember, once within the last year, I was lying on a mattress on the floor at approximately 2 AM.

Suddenly, there was a boom, which felt to me exactly like a very heavy truck had run over a bump in the street in front of my house.

The next day, they said it was an earthquake, I think 5.3, in the San Gabriel Mountains, which are just south of me.

I live in the desert, but while standing inside my front door, I can see peaks up to 10,500 ft, and, I can be in them (driving) within 45 minutes.

In the 19th century, John Muir explored all of California.

He said that the San Gabriels were the most impenetrable of all.

From what I have seen, I agree.

I have been in them, and it is amazing.

Thousands of feet almost straight up, and then thousands of feet almost straight down.

And, the pattern repeats again and again.

The San Gabriels separate Antelope Valley, where I live, from San Fernando Valley, where Los Angeles is located.

The distance is maybe 25 miles (horizontally).

But, I have often said that if a person tried to walk those miles, through the wilderness, not on trails, most likely he would not be heard from again.

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If I knew they were excavating beneath my house, my first feeling would be intense anger, and my inclination would be to try to stop them (as far as I know, my land extends beneath my yard to the center of Earth).

But, realistically, what could I do?

Start digging a hole in my back yard, in an attempt to reach them?

Relatedly, here is a tiny something I wrote, when I was making poems.

If you find stairs leading down from your basement,
suspect an unknown placement.

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Concerning underground cities, railroad tunnels have been constructed through mountains, for approximately the last 150 years.

So, we should believe that today it is still technically impossible to build underground cities?

And, we should believe that there is not enough "skimmed" government money, to build them with?

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I have to admit, that I look forward to these galactic messages now.

Although, life can make a person try to resist the urge to hope.

[kryton9]

There are also sound recordings of very strange sounds like heavy machinery working or a tornado coming, but no activity in the area. They have some good videos and recordings on youtube. They have them in Florida, Michigan, Ohio and over in England, at least the ones I have seen on youtube. Here is the one in Florida: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThjG0fIuhVM

[danbaron]

(I'd like to watch the youtube video. But, with my connection it would take a very long time to download it.)

It is public knowledge that the missing warheads did make the trip from North Dakota to Louisiana. I think on Coast-to-Coast, I heard one or more guests say that the security for warheads is such that this would be impossible if it was not done intentionally.

The date that it occurred, 2007-08-29, makes it seem especially suspicious to me. Bush and Cheney had 9/11 to resuscitate their stillborn regime, what better than a nuclear explosion blamed on Iran to keep it going indefinitely?

The articles say that plots have been foiled in which warheads were headed from the United States to Iran, in order to start WW3. It is not clear to me what would be done with the warheads once they arrived. I can only guess that they would be detonated in one or more countries neighboring Iran, and then Bush and Cheney would have immediately blamed Iran, and attacked (a repeat of what happened after 9/11).

When I read about the CIA missions to get warheads to the Middle East, it gives me chills. Because, it seems so likely to me.

I can also imagine a hidden internal conflict within the military, in which parts of it defy orders from the executive branch. (Who knows how many times this has occurred during the existence of the United States?)

It does seem absolutely probable that it would be impossible for the CIA to fly warheads without it being detected by standard U.S. military surveillance.

Who knows?, at the top of the U.S. military, it may be common knowledge that 9/11 was orchestrated by the CIA. Maybe, at least a faction has decided that nothing similar will happen again. (I am pretty sure that no member of the United States military is required to obey an illegal order. In fact, they can be prosecuted if they do. Treason, is illegal, yes? So, if top military officials refuse to cooperate with these plots, what can the perpetrators do to them? It seems to me, not much.)

Again, Bush and Cheney detonating warheads in the Middle East and blaming Iran, seems exactly, perfectly consistent with their personalities. I know that at least three times during his presidency, Bush publicly remarked that his "job" would be easier, if he was dictator instead of president. Each time he tried to make these statements seem like jokes. But, underneath, I don't think he was joking.

If you noticed, whenever Bush's power waned, he acted like a self-deprecating buffoon. And, whenever it waxed, he acted like he thought he was king. I always viewed him as secretly being an aspiring Hitler.

Of course, just because Bush and Cheney are out of office, that in no way means that others, non-elected members of government, are not attempting to initiate WW3, by executing a false-flag operation using U.S. nuclear weapons, correct? After 9/11, what else would be the next logical escalation?

A person might ask, why would anyone try to start WW3, it would be suicide? But, at least possibly, it wouldn't be suicide for the perpetrators, it might provide them with great power. There are lots of people, addicted to power, who would take the risk. But, certainly, for them, it would be homicide - not that they would lose any sleep over that prospect.

In every war, the vast majority suffers, but, a tiny minority prospers, yes or no?

[Charles Pegge]

David Wilcock


16 Sept 2011


http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases

[kryton9]

I have a hard time following David's lectures. He seems to work with lots of people I respect so I feel I am missing something in not being able relate to his lectures. He has a very uncanny similarity to Edgar Cayce.
http://www.google.com/search?q=edgar+cayce+david+wilcock&hl=en&biw=1920&bih=1075&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=pQyWTu3ADMiftwfOubyVBw&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QsAQ

That blog post is something I will read now. Wow what a headline!

[Charles Pegge]

Benjamin Fulford


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Fulford


2008 Interview

http://www.projectcamelot.org/lang/en/benjamin_fulford_interview_transcript_1_en.html

[danbaron]

To me, now, as I read these articles, the obvious explanation is that all of these similar stories about the destruction of underground bases, are false (even as I hope they are true).

Because, it seems to me that the alternative is literally, "out of this world".

How could it be possible that all of this is going on, and there is not even one word about any of it in the mainstream media?

It is approximately, beyond my ability to comprehend.

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How could it be that the Federal Reserve was ordered to begin giving gold to China on 2001-09-12, and for us not to have heard anything about it?

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I'm almost finished with David Wilcock's article.

If it is true, then, no fiction in our history equals it.

I do remember this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/23/mainsection.tomphillips
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/23/mainsection.tomphillips)
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The last thing I would do would be to let the perpetrators off with any kind of, "reconciliation".

A reconciliation, after what they have done, and fully intended to do?

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I have previously thought to myself, how could the economy of the entire world be going down the toilet?, it doesn't make any sense.

The money has to be going somewhere.

[danbaron]

Well, I signed up for the website.

http://benjaminfulford.net/

It is $8.00 per month, by PayPal, and, you can quit at anytime.

It is unbelievable - or is it?

(I am mystified by how Charles finds all of this stuff. If any of it is true, then, I would basically know nothing, if not for him.)

[kryton9]

I know you can't watch video Dan, but there is a great interview with him that I saw a couple years back here. Save it for when you have faster access.
http://projectcamelot.org/benjamin_fulford.html

[danbaron]

I read everything from Benjamin Fulford, including the interview.

I have only indirect evidence of my own (how many people have more?).

All I can say is, what he reveals seems plausible, and very frightening, to me.

He indicates that in actuality, we have been secretly enslaved by a very small group which covertly controls the money, for at least two centuries.

And everything we have been told about the causes of major world events, is a lie - in reality all is done to benefit this group's power.

Also, this group fully intends to kill us, as it views us a useless, and as an impediment to its own survival and prosperity.

If what he says is true, then, our democracies, and maybe all democracies, are fake.

He views the United States as currently, but secretly, financially bankrupt, and desperately trying to maintain power by engaging in non-stop wars.

And Obama, or whoever is the current figurehead, will continue proclaiming America's superiority and exceptionalism, and that things are fine, until the day it collapses.

Do those concepts seem impossible?

I can imagine that the vast majority of people would reflexively reject everything he says completely, without thinking, out of fear.

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http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm

For more fun, just Google, "money rothschild rockefeller federal reserve".

[Charles Pegge]

Many 'dark secrets' are coming to the surface, thanks to the web and the emergence of a collective conscience.

I am compelled to bring this to your attention, as it seldom appears in the main media. The disasters of recent events pale into insignificance when compared to what is happening in the Congo, and our electronics industry bears some responsibility for this situation by funding the militia groups who have inflicted untold misery on that country and caused the deaths of about 5 million people.

Blood in the Mobile


http://bloodinthemobile.org/




Charles

[danbaron]

Everything is for money.

People (as a whole), will do anything for it.

They haven't even the faintest notion, that they are marionettes on strings.

To me, very little has been gained by the invention of cell phones.

In fact, how much has been gained by the advances of most technology?

Life, for most people, has become harder.

But many people worship technology.

They want to hide in virtual worlds, and pretend the real world is virtual.

I wonder if the best possible thing would be, if money was globally banned.

People deify, for example, Steve Jobs, but, in my opinion, he didn't give a sh*t about where the materials for his products came from.

It's interesting to me, people worship anyone who society views as successful in acquiring power.

They care zero if he is morally bankrupt, if everything he does is for himself, for his own glorification.

I wonder, who thinks Jobs waited in line for his turn to get a liver transplant?

People don't even care if the guy hasn't the vaguest understanding of his own devices, if he hires other people who understand them.

They don't care if he is at most, an unscrupulous salesman, whose primary, secondary, and tertiary (at least) motivations, are making as much money as he can.

Jobs ceremonially, "stepped down", as boss of Apple.

I think he was putting on a show (like his one man shows, whenever he unveiled a new device), acting for his own legacy.

He said he authorized a biography, so that his family could know him.

To me, it's more of the same, trying to glorify himself even after his death.

Does the picture on the book's cover not imply, "I'm the smartest guy in the world."?

Do you think the book's publication date is coincidentally so closely coincident with the date of his death?

Let me know if and when anyone (besides his family, and his narcissistic mirror images) has anything good to say about him personally.

He was, "this generation's Henry Ford", right?

I believe it.

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-rroot540.html

[kryton9]

I think they would be fighting either way. This just happened to be the best way to finance their war. I think the problem is the primitive tribal mentality that lurks in so much of the third world. Look at the war lords in all of those countries. The bad thing is the idea that I(my tribe) want what you have and I will take it by force, or I just don't like you(tribe) and I wan't you gone from existence. That is why capitalism and institutions are needed. The problem with capitalism is not it but monopolistic power that can come from it.

If the world just followed the simple message in The Beatles song, we would all be better off:

The Beatles

Lennon/McCartney

Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game
It's easy.
There's nothing you can make that can't be made.
No one you can save that can't be saved.
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you
in time - It's easy.

All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
There's nothing you can know that isn't known.
Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.
It's easy.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
All you need is love (all together now)
All you need is love (everybody)
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.

[danbaron]

http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20111016/bs_nm/us_sec_conflictminerals

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"Corporations such as AT&T have criticized the rule as overreaching."

[danbaron]

From Benjamin Fulford.

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"What has happened is that the green countries that have real money stopped lending to countries still controlled by the fascists (the G6: Germany, the United States, England, France, Italy and their small group of slave states) starting in the fall of 2008. That is the real reason for the so-called Lehman shock."

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"The fascists also tried to renege on their debts by issuing a new currency they wanted to call the Amero. This was rejected because the green countries rightfully said they did not want their hard-earned dollars to be devalued. Instead the green countries acted to preserve the value of their hard earned dollars by refusing to accept all dollars created inside the US after 2008. Evidence for this can be found in trade numbers showing such things as a year on year 77% drop in US imports of Japanese cars or in the 90% drop in the Baltic Dry Index (the price of shipping)."

I do remember hearing rumors for years (but never anything in the mainstream media), that the Dollar would be replaced by a new North American currency, the Amero. At the time, I didn't know why the United States would want to do that. Now, maybe I do. I don't hear anything about the Amero anymore. Anyway, if the Amero story is true, then, I think it is another indicator that the governments of at least the big countries, never inform the citizens about the reality of any situation. The governments tell the people what serves the governments best.

He is saying that somehow, the actual reason that Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy on 2008-09-15, was because, the "green" countries on the above map, stopped lending money to the "G6". He is saying that the green countries are refusing to accept any dollar created within the US (I guess you could ask, where else are they created?), after 2008. If he is correct, then, the G6 governments are telling their citizens absolutely nothing about what is really happening.

I tried to verify the 77% and the 90%.

I failed for the 77%.

I succeeded for the 90%.

http://www.post1.net/lowem/entry/baltic_dry_index_falls_93_as_shipping_rates_plunge_signalling_global_economic_collapse

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From David Wilcock.

"Skeptics would insist this bridge collapse, and other similarly weird things like the Building 7 free-fall collapse during 9/11, are ordinary events -- but those skeptics are speaking from a place of fear.

The interesting thing about fear is it often lurks in the subconscious. The real source of this very strongly-held belief then remains unavailable to the conscious mind.

The skeptics themselves are unaware that the real reason they fight the truth so vigorously is they cannot psychologically handle the weight of it possibly being true."

I think what he is saying is exactly correct, but, most people don't realize it.

A person can have zero conscious feeling of fear, and still be controlled by it.

From my personal experience, I can say that it usually takes a long time to come to believe this is possible, and to accept that it is often the truth (It's hard to think that you are primarily motivated by something which you have no awareness of, right?).

"In the new system, if you have 20 dollars -- either in paper money or in your bank account -- you can visit any one of a variety of warehouses storing materials and goods, and withdraw 20 dollars' worth of assets from the warehouse.

You could get 20 dollars worth of corn. Or wheat. Or potatoes. Or silver. Or gold. Or rice. Et cetera. The coin money will already be made of precious metals. (Putin has had the vast majority of the Russian military secretly mining precious metals for years now.)

This might not sound any different than going to the grocery store, but the difference is extremely substantial. No currency in the world will be issued unless it has the direct backing of hard assets -- held in storage as collateral against the value of the money.

This is not unlike the idea of a Gold Standard -- and in fact, gold will be used in tiny coins -- but there is not enough gold to run the world's financial systems appropriately at this point. That problem will only intensify as growth continues.

It is very important that all money is tied in with real things: stuff that actually exists, has real value, and sits in a warehouse somewhere, and / or is contained within the money itself, so that anyone who uses the money has real value to gain from it."

Inflation is legal theft, yes or no?

It's interesting, I guess they thought they could keep running this scam forever, or, at least until they killed us all. And, that's interesting too, that they thought they could kill us all.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/981-undergroundbasesnewinfo

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And, Ben Bernanke (chairman of the Federal Reserve) and Tim Geithner (U.S. Treasury Secretary), are absolutely not crooks!

People naturally look for patterns. That is one of humanity's strongest survival mechanisms. If people didn't look for patterns, they would know nothing about math or science. But, when pattern recognition includes noting the religious beliefs of two guys who are absolutely not crooks!, that, is going too far!! (My wife has the same (nominal) religious beliefs, but, she is not interested in money.)

I just found this link (below), and, after reading it, I have to admit, Bernanke seems like maybe he is actually a decent guy - unless you think he was faking being drunk - I doubt he was. Notice that the date of the article is 2011-08-03, so, it must have happened very recently.

"Look, they don't want anyone except for the Washington, D.C. bigwigs to know how bad shit really is," said Bernanke, slurring his words as he spoke. "Mounting debt exacerbated—and not relieved—by unchecked consumption, spiraling interest rates, and the grim realities of an inevitable worldwide energy crisis are projected to leave our entire economy in the shitter for, like, a generation, man, I'm telling you."

"And hell, as long as we're being honest, I might as well tell you that a truer estimate of the U.S. unemployment rate is actually up around 16 percent, with a 0.7 percent annual rate of economic growth if we're lucky—if we're lucky," continued Bernanke, nearly knocking a full beer over while gesturing with his hands. "Of course, if everybody knew that, it would likely cripple financial markets across the entire fucking globe, even in various emerging economies with self-sustaining growth."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/drunken-ben-bernanke-tells-everyone-at-neighborhoo,21059/
(http://www.theonion.com/articles/drunken-ben-bernanke-tells-everyone-at-neighborhoo,21059/)
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It does seem like it is becoming much harder for the "puppet-masters" to keep secrets, doesn't it?

Now, one nanosecond after something happens, the world knows.

(I guess you could say that it is impossible for us to estimate how much we never learn, and, I couldn't argue with you.)

Anyway, hopefully, the new age of instant information sharing, is a hopeful sign, I hope. :p

[kryton9]

You write really well Dan. You should think about being a freelance writer for internet blogs.

The more one looks into this stuff, the more you realize the truth is probably too shocking to believe. Even for me, what seems like really fringe accounts are more and more appearing to be real.

In the project Camelot interview, the thing I liked the best was this secret army(group) in China, I think he referred to them as the green dragons-- set to fight the evil fascist new world order. I thought what a neat idea for a movie and a flight of fancy, but now I am not so sure it is fantasy?

[danbaron]

From,

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/benjamin_fulford_interview_transcript_2_en.html.

BF: Well, what happened was, the very next day I got a call from a movie director, a Japanese movie director, and he says to me: I want to talk to you about something. So I met him and he said: There’s someone I want you to meet. So I went to another hotel room. Right? They seem to like hotel rooms, you know, when they want to talk about important stuff. And again I recorded this, although I’ll never release this recording. The guy tells me that he represents an Asian secret society and that they have 6 million members, including 1.8 million gangsters and 100,000 professional assassins.

Now, recall I did tell you I had a degree in Asian studies with a China area specialty. So I had read about this society in the history books. I knew about them. It’s the Red and the Green. What happened was, the Ming Empire was like the high point of Chinese civilization. You’ll find that the Ming ceramics, the Ming art, everything was at the highest level. It was really an idyllic society and they look back at it with a lot of fondness. And, there was a General guarding the northern border against the Manchus and he was very much in love with his wife. And they kidnapped his wife. They said: If you want your wife back, you’re gonna have to let us through the gates. And he did. And the Ming Empire fell and the Ming army became an underground organization, and the Ming navy. OK?

So the Red and the Green are the army and the navy. And the Green also is the bureaucracy. So, the 1.8 million are gangsters. The other 4.2 million are intellectuals, PhDs. They’re the smartest people. And their plan was to overthrow the Manchus and restore the Ming. They were responsible for the Boxer Rebellion which was against the use of opium, among other things. And—this is very interesting—because the people selling the opium was Skull & Bones! So they’ve been fighting this western secret society since the 1800s at least.

[Charles Pegge]

We live in interesting times.

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/major_happenings.html

[danbaron]

Thank God.

I had felt for awhile, that I was a freak of nature.

It seemed like I was living in The Twilight Zone, among passive mannequins who would keep staring at their Iphones, even while standing in line for the gas chambers.

Lately, I have had people living in luxurious and insulated safety cocoons, ask me concerning the new demonstrators, "What do they want?", "What are their specific demands?".

These elitists act as if the demonstrators are like something from, The Planet of the Apes.

They assume and hope that these people are asking for small changes within the self-same system.

I said that if the demonstrators are smart, they will not give specific demands.

If they do, the courtiers will dissect and attack those demands, like studying a few leaves under a microscope, in a forest of rotting trees.

And, lately (before the demonstrations started), I have said that the capitalists are destroying their own futures.

That history shows, the miserable at the bottom oppose the complacent at the top.

When the bottom class reaches some critical percentage of the population, "the pot starts to boil".

So far, I think the demonstrators are smart enough not to be placated by the babbling of any of the system's propagandists.

They seem to realize that the only way the system will substantially change, is if they make enough trouble for it.

Concerning the article in this next link, I think it's true, the function of the liberal class has become only to mouth platitudes, while actually trying to change nothing.

Their function has become not more than as a relief valve on the pressure cooker comprising the system.

Now, anyone with a voice in the mainstream media, whether a courtier, a capitalist, or a politician, wants more than anything, for the system to remain as it is.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/17

[ErosOlmi]

You write really well Dan. You should think about being a freelance writer for internet blogs.
I agree!
It is a pleasure to read him even for non American/English like me.

[danbaron]

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