Giant asteroid set to narrowly miss Earth

[Charles Pegge]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/giant-asteroid-set-to-narrowly-miss-earth.html

[jack]

I think it's a warning of what is to come, the prophecies of the Bible foretell that a large asteroid will hit the earth's ocean, killing two thirds of the sea life as well as destroying two thirds of earth's ships.

[JosephE]

Hmm, it looks like we're good for another 70 years according to the article.

[Charles Pegge]

We are getting to the stage where it is possible to deflect these objects given sufficient warning.

Our planet has had some nasty accidents in the past. Something really bad happened about 250 million years ago in an event known as the Permian-Triassic extinction. It was a near wipe-out and took about 50 million years to recover the original biodiversity. This lead to rise of the dinosaurs.

Charles

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Extinction_intensity.svg/531px-Extinction_intensity.svg.png

extinction rate vs time

[JosephE]

Our planet has had some nasty accidents in the past. Something really bad happened about 250 million years ago in an event known as the Permian-Triassic extinction. It was a near wipe-out and took about 50 million years to recover the original biodiversity. This lead to rise of the dinosaurs.

That seems like an awfully long time ago for them to be so sure about that, lol. We seem to have a hard time keeping the last several hundred years worth of history accurate...

[danbaron]

Unfortunately, guys, none of this makes any difference.

Goodbye to you all.

It was nice knowing you.

:( :cry: :oops: :unguee:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363837/Doomsday-campers-Project-Caravan-say-world-end-May-21.html

[zak]

but what they will say after 11 days they must prepare answer from now . this is like when Nostradamus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus) predict that the world will end in 7/7/1999 many people waited for that famous date .

[JosephE]

And I thought the world was supposed to end next year. =P

[Charles Pegge]

According to George Kavassilas the Earth as we know it will end on the Spring Equinox of 2013, not the Winter Solstice of 2012.

The general advice is not to go aboard the ET spaceships. You might end up in a zoo :o. Those remaining on Earth will be transformed with the planet to a higher dimensional form.
Mathematicians take note!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cweSPrNzpkM

Charles

[JosephE]

Considering none of the experts agree on any of this, I'm inclined to believe we're safe for a while yet. :)

[zak]

i like prophecies even mostly it turns out to be false; it is demonstrating a human endeavor to jump out of the system, and the boring life.

[Charles Pegge]

Passing by on Tuesday. 201000 miles away

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/huge-asteroid-headed-close-encounter-earth-184902787.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/huge-asteroid-headed-close-encounter-earth-184902787.html)

[kryton9]

They are having the first ever nationwide new emergency warning system test this week in the U.S., I think all tv, internet and radio will go down or have a warning for 3 minutes or so. Also Obama is supposed to be in an underground bunker this week for something... all happening this week with that asteroid coming by. I also heard Monday the markets all over the world could crash do to margin adjustments and of course the ever increasing talk about Israel possibly attacking Iran's Nuclear facilities. Sounds like a tough week ahead according to the conspiracy sites.

[Charles Pegge]

Wait until after Friday 11/11/11, and see whether it was worth surviving the week. :)

[Charles Pegge]

If you see any prognostications about 11/11/11, please hold onto them till Saturday. It will be interesting to find out whether they have any validity.

[Petr Schreiber]

Hi,

the asteroid thing gets interesting. I returned from buying some stuff yesterday evening, and saw huge asteroid falling on the northern sky. It wasn't just few pixels thin line, it was quite wide, and covered big part of sky.

My brother was out on other place, and in different time also observed huge asteroid.

So... I recommend to check the night sky, it was really very beautiful to watch. Maybe the big asteroid is slightly decomposing, and smaller pieces fall on us.


Petr

[danbaron]

The, "asteroid", is actually a craft?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_YU55

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike07-11-11.html

And, if on this Friday, I don't feel any differently, it means I am one of the bad people, or, at least, the frequency of my, "vibration", is too low?

If nothing happens, it is my fault, because, I sent out negative, "rays"?

Harold Camping was a fraud, but, this is a completely different situation, I'm just too dull to realize it?

"The New Age", is 100% guaranteed to be the real thing, bona fide, genuine?!??!!

We just happen to be the very fortunate ones, born at exactly the right time during the existence of humanity? (Actually, I guess we were born at this time due to the specifications in our, "soul contracts".)

All that came before, all the suffering and injustice, is trivial, just a prelude to the great wonders we are on the brink of?

I mean, this is nothing like Heaven's Gate, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29

We're talking about extremely intelligent, educated, sophisticated people, the "cream" - not, the unquestioning, "sheep", of organized religion, not highly suggestible cultists, correct?

I thought so!

I can hardly contain myself!!

I'm going to start packing!!!

[Charles Pegge]

two events are standing out, one is the arrival mid week of what has been incorrectly described as an asteroid. It is in fact an intelligently controlled craft, and it remains to be seen how it interacts with your Earth or Moon. On Friday you have the eagerly awaited 11.11.11 bringing with it another great upsurge of energy, that will bring about a wonderful upliftment in your levels of consciousness. Its collective effect will be evident by a new wave of love all over your Earth.


(http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike07-11-11.html)http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike07-11-11.html


No special Heaven's Gate pills are required for this Friday but instead



If possible find a quiet spot where you can relax and open your self up to the energy. Bear in mind that the energy is already beginning to manifest, ..


I have seen quite a few other web sites with descriptions along a similar theme. Nothing apocalyptic so far.

Charles

PS: cloud cover is extremely dense over here tonight. No chance of making any asteroid observations.

[danbaron]

When hope dies, what still lives?

So, who, in an average human situation, can prevent him/her-self from hoping?

On the other hand, I guess I am a natural born skeptic.

Concerning the asteroid, according to the Wikipedia article, its trajectory has been calculated at least through 2041.

Why would a craft be following a trajectory able to be calculated using Newtonian mechanics, just to fool us?

At some time in the past, the occupants put the vehicle into a certain configuration (location and velocity (velocity includes direction)), and turned off the engines?

Why would they do that, just to approach our planet by stealth?

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An old folk song from a primordial epoch, that imparts ageless wisdom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Won%27t_Get_Fooled_Again

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The skeptic's answer to feelings of bliss unaccompanied by any measurable data:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

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See, one strategy for a person who has been disappointed too often, is to become a skeptic.

Then, to counteract his own sense of disappointment, the person gets some satisfaction from predicting in advance that what others are hoping for, is not more than foolishness.

To quote Ebeneezer Scrooge, "Bah, humbug!".

[Charles Pegge]

This is the only image I can find so far:

Asteroid 2005 YU55
NASA Radar image

http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2011/11/111108070612.jpg

[Charles Pegge]

A few more details:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15572634

[danbaron]

In reality, these thousands of arrestees will be 'held' on board a mothership (what we call an 'on-ship program') in the customary holographic environment which tailors itself into a locale of your choosing.

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/sheldan08-11-11.html

Did they get this idea from, the Phantom Zone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Zone

Actually, if you read who they put in the Phantom Zone, you see the similarity to those who are extremely narcissistic, and at the top of the pyramid on our planet.

Besides ones who actively hate the populace, what is worse for the people than narcissistic bosses (leaders, controllers)?

The more narcissistic the boss, the worse the result is.

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http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike09-11-11.html (http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike09-11-11.html)
(http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike09-11-11.html)
If everything wonderful is always in the future, then, what good is it, because, the future never arrives (it is always the present)?

How do you discern if someone is lying/deluded or telling the truth?

The liar continues saying what he will do, but never does it.

Or, the liar claims to have done something, but, objective verification is impossible.

The honest person stops talking, and acts - in a way which is plain for all to see.

[danbaron]

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/wanderer07-11-11.html

I might be wrong, but, my b.s. detector is flashing.


We wish to address faith with you. For most of you, faith is all you have. You have not seen us, not communicated with us, have no real knowledge of our existence outside of these messages. You have not been taken aboard our craft, have no real way of knowing whether any of the messages that have come through, be they from the Federation or from spiritual sources, or otherwise, are anything other than the imagination of those who write the words down on paper.

I can't argue with that.


Do you stand behind a leader of a first world country who we have repeatedly told you will be the one to lead you successfully out of the grips of the Illuminati, or do you succumb to the pressures of the "real world" and believe what is told you from those sources?

We should trust Obama?


This was never to be an easy trail to follow but you have done so magnificently. We cannot be more proud of you.


You have closed the gap for us so much that we actually delight here in sitting back while you take control of your own destiny toward that very end.

Always flatter your followers. That way they will suspend their logical abilities longer.


Soon, several world governments will announce indictments underway against major players in the international financial markets as a reaction to your protests and a response to the rising energy of Light that is quickly sweeping away all the darkness.


I think all of these channelers read what each other posts. So, I think they all know the basic narrative. Problems can begin when the narrative starts to predict specific events, within specific time periods. But, the narrators cannot forecast nebulous vagaries forever. So, at some point they are forced to predict things which can be verified or refuted. If the predictions do not happen, they are left with trying to come up with reasons. With respect to ETs, who reportedly are technologically far far ahead of Earth humans, I don't see the narrators being able to claim that the "dark forces" stopped them, since, the dark forces are Earth humans. If the ETs can be outwitted, overpowered by Earth humans, then, in what way are they superior? The only other excuse I can imagine, is to blame humanity as a whole, to say that nothing changed because too few of us believed.

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The world is in the midst of a financial disaster, but, that is something completely separate from ET intervention.

What if none of the predicted wonderful changes happen?

Who has, "stuck his neck out", farther than Steve Beckow?

http://stevebeckow.com/

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If the predictions are wrong, we'll be left to wonder about the motivations of the facilitators.

For each one, how much was lying for attention, and, how much was delusion?

[Charles Pegge]

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/navealfa10-11-11.html

[danbaron]

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/11/archangel-michael-to-ascenders-and-starseeds-on-11-11-11/#more-78626


I’ve had my discussion with Archangel, Michael about 11-11-11. Ellen is hard at work transcribing the tape. But for those who don’t want to wait, here is the tape itself.


http://stevebeckow.com/wp-content/plugins/wpaudio-mp3-player/wpaudio-play.png http://www.counciloflove.com/public_html/channelings/111011beckow.mp3 (http://www.counciloflove.com/public_html/channelings/111011beckow.mp3)

The discussion was almost exclusively on 11-11-11. We agreed to have another session later on Nov. 30 to cover all the other matters which we didn’t have time for today.


The first part of today’s discussion was directed to those who would be ascending on 11-11-11, many of whom will be returning as Gatekeepers, and the second part was to those Lightworkers and Starseeds who have agreed to stay behind to serve in various capacities but who will nonetheless be impacted by the 11-11-11 vibrations.

So, some people should disappear tomorrow, right?

It's hard to disprove, isn't it?

As far as I know, I will not be ascending, but, I haven't agreed to stay behind either.

In fact, to my knowledge, I have not been contacted.

So, I guess, for sure I am none of, Gatekeeper, Lightworker, or, Starseed.

Are there threads of elitism, in this purportedly egalitarian phenomenon?

Or, could I be a member of the, "dark cabal", without being aware of it?

I'm going to get an unpleasant surprise?

Could my skepticism automatically put me into the, "dark", category?

Similar to how skeptics of Christianity, are, according to Christians, automatically put into the, "Hell", category?

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I do feel irritated about this (towards the channelers), but only because I suspect it is a case of false hope.

What normal person would not want these predictions to be true?

I guess one could make the case that, hope is hope, whether true or false.

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http://galacticchannelings.com/english/navealfa10-11-11.html


The number 11 is one that has in itself the quality to open doorways. The Cosmos is full of billions of these portals, which are scattered throughout space, not by whim, but because each of the portals is sealing the entrance to a determined space different from that which is around you. Once this portal is activated and opened wisely, it will give access to all beings who know your whereabouts to pass through and cross other parts of space-time, which could be a distant galaxy millions of light years from where you would find the beings passing through.


The day when our calendar began, was arbitrary.

But, somehow, the cosmos doesn't care?

Because tomorrow is 2011-11-11, it has special powers?

It seems that these ETs mix together science, technology, and magic, just like science-fiction stories.

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Absolutely, one could make the case that this New Age Spirituality is a reaction against religion.

People need the hope which religion has always provided.

When people see too many of the cracks in religion's facade, they may turn to spirituality (if not agnosticism, or atheism).

In that case, the ET connection may only be an artifact of our era, to attach the spirituality to.

One hundred years from now, for instance, the host, container, vehicle, would be something different.

[Charles Pegge]

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike11-11-11.html

[danbaron]

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike11-11-11.html

Asteroids and comets are actually artificial?

Is that the most likely explanation?

Or, is the most likely explanation, asteroids and comets are - asteroids and comets?

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It's 11/11/11, shouldn't I feel something different?

Because, I don't.

My conclusion is that either my receptors are not sensitive enough, or, those who do feel different, are experiencing something which originates in their own heads.

My observation is that none of the experiencers question the origin of what they feel.

Or, they are reassured by the fact that others in their (relatively very small) group (of experiencers), also feel something.

It seems that it does not occur to them to question the entirety of the group.

I think there is a similar phenomenon in cults.

The members mutually reinforce the group beliefs.

Doubts which would occur to the individual, are suppressed within the psychological shelter/pressure of the group.

I also think there is a group sense of being more evolved (elitism), than those who do not realize what to them is plainly evident.

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http://stevebeckow.com/

I have very little experience with Facebook, but, is it similar to this
(the first 5 photographs accompany articles, so, I assume each is of the author)?

76107611761276137615


7614
This picture accompanies an article
with no listed author, about, the Spiritual
Emergency Network.

My question is,
from where does her apparent bliss originate?

[danbaron]

(Revisions in red.)

(This is just my opinion tonight, maybe it is worthless, and, maybe it will be different tomorrow.)

They seem to mix science with magic. Many things, they don't address at all. I constantly read about their crafts being in the vicinity of our planet. To me, crafts mean, vehicles for transportation. According to Einstein, they could never travel here from other stars. Are they traveling through other dimensions? Who knows? Do other dimensions exist, through which they could travel to get here? Who knows?

One of the most prominent communicating ETs, is SaLuSa, from Sirius. Sirius is a binary star system. Is a binary system likely to have planets in stable orbits? (In a binary star system, the two stars must orbit their center of mass. Otherwise, they would collapse together, like two magnets.) Sirius is only about 250 million years old. Earth is over 4.5 billion years old. But, Sirius has life which is more evolved than Earth's? Does SaLuSa come from one of Sirius' planets, or, from Sirius itself? If Sirius, then, he lives on/in a star? That would seem like a good trick.

I've read about various of these ETs originating from other planets in our solar system, for instance, Venus. How could they survive? The atmosphere of Venus is 96.5% carbon dioxide, and 3.5% nitrogen. The atmospheric pressure at its surface is 92 times that of Earth. Its mean temperature is 460 degrees Celsius.

Do they have bodies subject to the same physical laws as we are, or, are they like ghosts? Who knows?

It is my observation that concerning all of this New Age stuff, science is used when it is convenient to use it, otherwise, it is ignored. People cite quantum mechanics, when it is plain that they know nothing about even basic science.

And, all of them use certain buzzwords and phrases, such as, "frequencies", and, "vibrations". My guess is that most don't know what those words mean.

We can't forget about the power of crystals. Somehow, crystals are good for just about everything, from levitating the huge stones of the pyramids, to rejuvenating the cells of our body. I read somewhere that beginning on 11/11/11, the cells of our body would assume a crystalline structure, which, would stop and reverse both aging and illness.

And, of course, we don't want to forget to mention that out planet itself is alive, has consciousness, and its name is Gaia. Now, once one believes that, it is a short trip to believing that asteroids and comets are actually crafts, not rocks and ice balls.

But, you know, someone could pick up a rock off of the ground, and say it is a craft. Could I prove him wrong? No. He could say the rock is conscious and intelligent. Could I prove him wrong? No.

Concerning the asteroid that just passed on 11/09, scientists basically say it is a 400 meter diameter rock. But, New Age-ers say it is a craft. From its trajectory, scientists are able to calculate its mass. And, apparently, it has the mass of a 400 meter diameter rock. Is it likely that a craft would have the same density as a rock? Or, did the ETs intentionally disguise it?

Why stop at asteroids and comets being crafts? Wouldn't the best candidate for a craft, be our own Moon? Who could disprove it? Even if scientists determined that the entire volume of the Moon is just rock, what would that prove? Maybe the ETs occupy the Moon within a higher dimension.

People can always hypothesize things which science cannot disprove, right? If I say there is a ghost sitting next to me, who can show I'm wrong?

Up until now, I find all of this subject to be a mixture of attention seeking, narcissism, and delusion.

If I had to bet my life on whether or not any conscious being has ever visited this planet from any other planet, star system, etc., I would bet no.

If I am correct, 11/11/11 was to be most significant day on the New Age calendar, except for 12/21/12. Did something profound happen today, that I missed?

But, we don't want to dwell on the past, correct? The important thing is the magnificence which is just over the horizon. All we need to do, is to be patient for a little longer.

Let me know when an event associated with this topic occurs, which I can observe with one or more of my five senses.

(I forgot, besides ETs, the channelers communicate with dead people and angels too!)

[Charles Pegge]

Well that NASA asteroid image looked suspiciously like an old potato. We await confirmation from other independent observatories. :)

I have not found any reports of dramatic transformation yet, but I have to say I had an exceptionally productive week, and the old brain continues to run smoothly after working on 64 bit binaries. I would normally be quite frazzled after such an intensive session.

If this is a real step change in global consciousness then it be should reflected more objectively in world events and there are plenty of them to observe right now.

Charles

[John Spikowski]

I had an exceptionally productive week, and the old brain continues to run smoothly after working on 64 bit binaries. I would normally be quite frazzled after such an intensive session.

I don't want to make you cry but all it took to generate a 64 bit version of ScriptBasic was one gcc command line addition. :good:

[danbaron]

(Revisions in red.)

I want what they are claiming, to be true, I just am doubtful.

And certainly, part of my hostility is due to the kind of people I perceive them to be.

I guess I see them as dilettantes, dabblers in spirituality, with relatively easy lives, and the free time to indulge themselves.

I think at the end of the 19th century, there was a similar phenomenon among the same economic class of people with respect to spirituality - seances, etc.

Also, I see them as extremely imprecise with their vocabulary and ideas, they use many jargon-like words and phrases in whatever way suits them. It angers me that they publish what seem to me to be vague, amorphous, illogical, and contradicting ideas. My sense is that their self-images are so high that, they think anything which comes out of their minds, is golden. Also, for some it could be that they are just stupid. But, for the ones who are just stupid, apparently they are too stupid to realize they should keep their mouths shut. I also think it would be impossible for any of them to be more precise, because, I suspect that what they write is fantasy, out of their own heads, whether or not they realize it.

It also angers me that they seemingly have zero doubt about what they express - to me, a person with zero doubt about any anything at all, even whether the Sun will rise tomorrow, is lacking in rationality.

And, it angers me that, if I can see the flaws in their thinking, if I can see similar passing historical precedents, then, why can't they? It seems to me that they portray themselves as being the most enlightened of our species, yet, they have no capacity for introspection?

(I realize the case could be made that all I am writing, tells more about me than it does who I am writing about.)

As far as I am aware, channeling, is a very new phenomenon. My guess is that the concept did not exist before 1950. To me, that is an indicator that something is wrong. Why would it be, that now certain people are transmitters for ETs, dead people, and angels, but previous to 60 years ago, no one was? (Certainly, one could make the argument that mediums in seances were (prior to 1950) transmitting communications from the dead.)

I can imagine how self-important a particular type of person would feel, believing (or pretending) that he/she has been chosen to be the official communicator for a galactic representative, or even an angel. And, I can imagine the deference and respect that, "true believers", would afford these people.

So, basically, I am very close to thinking the entire thing is phony.

We all know of cult leaders who have led suggestible people in order to inflate their distorted personalities: Joseph Smith - Mormonism; L. Ron Hubbard - Scientology; Jim Jones - Jonestown, Guyana; David Koresh - Branch Davidians, Waco Texas. I feel what seems to me to be, a natural revulsion for such people.

The one common trait, which, I have a great distaste for, and which I see in all of them, is a huge narcissism. And, I am suspicious that many of the New Age channelers and followers have the same. But, of course, some of them may truly be certain that they are in fact channeling who they say they are.

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Over 80% of the world's population lives on less that $10 per day.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

My speculation is that none of that group is a channeler.

My speculation is that none of that group is a, "Gatekeeper", "Light Worker", or, "Star Seed".

(Do these designations set off your, "elitist alarm", like they do mine?)

In fact, my speculation is that very very few of that group are in any way involved with the New Age movement.

If I am correct, I wonder why that is.

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As of today, I would bet that, overall for the whole world, 2013 will be worse than 2011.

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I think I've mistakenly lumped two websites together.

Whether I'm right or wrong, my feelings about the two websites differ.

I mean to direct my negative attitude at,

http://stevebeckow.com/

(http://stevebeckow.com/)I view that website and its postings as being primarily ego-driven.

On the other hand, the website and postings at,

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/index.html

I view as being primarily well intentioned.

(Now I see that the Steve Beckow website is posting about 11/11/11 disappointments. So, my view of it is improving.)

[Charles Pegge]

They have started a new forum which looks promising, providing an opportunity for more diverse points of view and a willingness to debate this channeled material.

http://galacticchannelings.of-the-light.com/community/

I'm still collecting 11/11/11 material from as many different sources as I can find. Will post on a separate thread.

Charles

PS: @John. Using a compiler to do your 64 bit is cheating :D

[danbaron]

(Maybe I am schizophrenic.)

I think there are approximately one hundred trillion cells in the human body.

And, all of those cells are working together.

Wouldn't it be a, "kick in the pants", if, all of those cells are there to comprise something important, something objectively important?

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/11/the-arcturian-group-nov-13-2011/