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Charles Pegge
30-03-2011, 22:37
http://kryon.com/inspiritmag/archives/Q-A%20archives/archiveindex.html
Who is Kyron, Charles?
I know the answer to Who is John Galt? :)
danbaron
31-03-2011, 09:49
First of all, I'm positively biased towards any belief system which supports the physical-spiritual duality of life.
Life is hard enough without resigning oneself to the unprovable idea that nothing exists besides the material, that science can explain everything, that life and consciousness are nothing of significance.
On the other hand, how are we to decide whether Lee Carroll is channeling anyone? Is this just another manifestation of New Age spirituality? Is it another indicator that the discoveries of science are making it harder and harder for many people to put blind faith in traditional religious beliefs? Does it show that humans are wired to hope for the existence of the immaterial, and one way or another that hope will be expressed?
Kryon seems to know a lot. But, there are misspellings in some of his answers. It seems strange to me. It seems to me that Kryon should actually be doing the typing - Lee Carroll would only be the tool (Kryon's answers are in the first person).
And, I still don't comprehend the reason we are here. Supposedly, we have chosen to be here, and, we are serving some grand purpose, which we are unable to understand while we are incarnated. Additionally, we are all God, or, part of God. I, for one, don't feel even remotely like God (or, I guess, maybe the way I feel is exactly how God feels - how would I measure?).
And, everything that is wrong with existence here, is because of "our" choices. I guess that could be true for the composite of humanity, but, I sure would not choose for life to be the way it is - and, I don't think that many people would.
Additionally, everyone chose to play the part they are living, before their incarnation. Everyone's role works towards the same unified goal of a higher good. The torturer and the tortured are both doing their parts. Maybe so, but, perhaps because I am not sufficiently evolved, I feel more positively towards the tortured. If I am being subjugated, should I resign myself to it, realize that I pre-chose this life, not resist those who cause me misery, "turn the other cheek"?
I guess basically, it is hard for me to understand what good it is for me to know, "the big picture", between incarnations; but to, "fumble in the dark", during incarnations.
The struggle of physical existence results in some greater good, but, why is the struggle necessary? Why not just begin with the greater good, and eliminate the struggle? And, if we are all part of God, then, in a sense, we have orchestrated all of this ourselves, only now we cannot recall doing so?
Why is Kryon exempt from what we endure? Is it fair?
(I could propose a test for Kryon, but I won't. But if I did, it would be for him to channel himself through Lee Carroll as usual, but instead of typing the answers in English, to do it in German.)
On the third hand, how does it help me to doubt?
:oops: :twisted:
Charles Pegge
31-03-2011, 12:25
If this is not what it claims to be then it is superb science fiction. I have my doubts when Kryon says that base 12 math will help to resolve Pi into a rational number, but I love the breadth of this material and the wealth of ideas.
One of the 'why are we here suffering' questions:
(8 ) QUESTION: Dear Kryon: Our world involves excruciating pain and suffering, and even "lessons" that we choose in which we hurt each other. How is this justified? How does God/Source feel about this? Why is this allowed?
ANSWER: First, God is not in charge of your world, dear one. You are. The sooner you realize that, the better. Therefore, there is no “allowance” of anything. The energy of Earth is what you have created through free choice.
Now… all my work to this point has been in explanation of this. You live in a duality which is free to claim any energy it wants to, without interference from the outside. That’s why it’s called a test. This has been given you many times:
The reason for the suffering and hurtful behavior is because, up to this point, you have chosen a lower energy of existence. That is what is changing regarding the great shift. Your prophesied Armageddon future didn’t happen, and much of what was supposed to be next, is also not happening! You have changed the future and are moving upward to a higher energy and a lofty goal of peace on Earth. All our teaching have therefore said: Behold the changes! Don’t be afraid to hold light for this, and hold your ground.
We told you the weather would change, and it did. We warned you about big storms, magnetic variances, and earthquakes. All these have now happened. They were not punishments by God, but rather movements by Gaia due to your own vibratory changes.
Therefore, again we tell you to take responsibility for what you have created and move on now to balance it, eliminate what is obviously inappropriate, and roll up your sleeves! As we see it, your recent history is now showing that this is well underway. There is much good news here, but you won’t see it on your media.
Don’t despair. You are changing things greatly. Know that this might take generations to accomplish, but you are the forerunners and have already made a difference.
Charles
danbaron
31-03-2011, 23:35
It is interesting.
The only reference I can find concerning base 12 math, is about crop circles. Anything about pi or prime numbers would be a tip-off. People cannot successfully fake math knowledge or breakthroughs.
You can look here to find out who Kryon is, Kent.
http://www.kryon.com/menu.html
Just click on, "About Kryon".
Charles Pegge
01-04-2011, 02:01
I think base 12 is good for revealing certain patterns: fractions, harmonics etc. The Sumerians used a number base of 60 (!) and we have inherited this legacy in our measurement of time and angles.
But a number base is for the convenience of man. The intrinsic value of a number is the same in any base and Pi will not resolve to a rational number at least in our terrestial maths.
Charles
Thanks for the link Dan.
Did you listen to last night's Coast to Coast A.M.? I was hoping you did and could explain about the quantum computer. I couldn't visualize what they were talking about. It gives all possible answers at once and you have to find the correct answer?
Also it sounded like whoever could calculate all those factorials of prime's, why is this important, I don't know... but apparently for security. They better start making a table now, because it sounds like chaos if some other evil power gets it first.
If this is not what it claims to be then it is superb science fiction. I have my doubts when Kryon says that base 12 math will help to resolve Pi into a rational number, but I love the breadth of this material and the wealth of ideas.
One of the 'why are we here suffering' questions:
Charles
Could they find a repeating sequence in base12 perhaps?
Charles Pegge
02-04-2011, 01:37
No Kent. There is no prospect of resolving PI into a recurring pattern. You can think of PI as being composed of an infinite number of diagonals (of delta x and delta y) most of which will be irrational numbers themselves.
The roots of whole numbers are often irrational but PI is called a Transcendental number because it is not the root of any whole number.
Perhaps the way out of this dilemma is to assume that straight lines do not exist in the cosmos and all distances should be measured as a cosmic angle :)
Charles
When they figured out about PI, I wonder how many decimal places they calculated to by hand before saying... ok this goes on forever?
With a cosmic angle... you would still need a length to make the angle useful wouldn't you?
danbaron
02-04-2011, 08:11
(I'm not an expert. I'll answer as best as I can.)
For Kent:
Concerning pi.
I think they determined that it never has a repeating pattern in its decimal expansion, by first determining that it is irrational. They already knew that irrational numbers have the property of having an infinite non-repeating decimal expansion.
A rational number is a number which can be expressed in the form a/b, where a and b are integers, and b is unequal to 0. Pi cannot be expressed that way.
Concerning encryption.
(I don't think the guy explained this very well.)
The universal method now used in every government's cryptography, involves prime numbers. Prime numbers are the positive integers which are only exactly divisible by the two integers consisting of themselves and 1. For instance, 4 is not prime, because 2 divides it exactly. 9 is not prime because 3 divides it exactly. The sequence of primes begins, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37.. (You could ask the question, "Why isn't 1 prime?". The answer is that the mathematicians (I think) arbitrarily decided not to include it.) It has been proved that the prime sequence is infinite.
For sending encrypted messages, they do something like this. Say that I am sending you an encrypted message. We have to assume that someone will intercept it during its transmission. You have what is called a public key (an integer). We assume that anyone can obtain this key. It happens to be the product of two big prime numbers. I encrypt the message using your public key (there is a standard method to do this). You also have two private keys, which no one else knows, not even me. The private keys consist of the factorization of your public key. You are able to decrypt the message I send you, using your private keys. (If you want to send me an encrypted message, then, you encrypt it using my public key, and I decrypt it using my two private keys.)
For instance, say, your public key is 1147. Then, your private keys would be 31 and 37, because, 31 * 37 = 1147. Then, I would encrypt my message to you using 1147. If someone intercepted the message, they know that they can decrypt it by factoring 1147 into its two primes (31 and 37). This would easy for them to do, and they would determine the factors, 31, and 37, and decrypt the message.
However, 1147, is only an 11 bit public key. They don't use 11 bit public keys for sending real secret messages. I think they use 256 bit public keys. The largest (base 10) integer that a 256 bit key can express is, 2^256, equals,
115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936.
So, someone intercepting a secret message, would have to factor a number like the one above into its two primes. It turns out that even with the fastest computers, it would take much much longer than the age of the universe to try every possible combination of prime factor pairs (and, no mathematician has found a shortcut). So, the probability that anyone can ever find the particular two prime factors and decrypt the message, is effectively, 0.
(How do they make a 256 bit public key? Probably, they just multiply two 128 bit prime numbers together.)
Now, concerning quantum computers.
(And, I don't think the guy explained this very well.)
In the 1920s, physicists determined that an electron does not actually orbit a nucleus as was previously thought. Instead, an electron is simultaneously located at every possible position that it can take around the nucleus. Apparently, at a very small (quantum) scale, objects can be everywhere at once. I think this is the basis of quantum mechanics. From quantum mechanics, came the idea of the quantum computer, which until today, is still just an idea. The idea is that instead of doing calculations sequentially, like the computers we use, it could do calculations simultaneously (sort of like infinite parallel processing). In the case of factoring a 256 bit key, it would simultaneously try all of the possible pairs of prime numbers, and instantaneously return the correct pair. It would instantly make the prime encryption method useless. The first government to build a quantum computer that could factor large composite integers into their primes, would be able to learn all of the other countries' secrets.
The guy on the show said that this (quantum computers) will probably happen within 10 years. Therefore, besides working on quantum computers, big governments are also working on quantum encryption, which, quantum computers would be unable to decrypt.
And, again about quantum computers.
Doesn't it seem impossible for them to be real? It seems like something out of, "Alice in Wonderland", doesn't it?
:oops: :twisted:
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REVISIONS:
1.
The largest (base 10) integer that a 256 bit key can express is, 2^256 - 1, equals,
115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639935.
2.
In order to "break" a public key, you only have to find one of its prime factors, not both. If you find the first one, then, you have automatically also found the second one. But, it still would take much much longer than the age of the universe to try every possible candidate prime number (every prime number less than or equal to the key's square root.) (And, no mathematician has found any shortcut.)
Thanks Dan, you are a natural born teacher. You can explain the most complicated subjects so dummies like me can even understand it.
About the encryption.... I wonder if bad guys could use a bot net and each computer calculate so many prime numbers tables, then in the end with millions of computers they could have a table of primes to break the encryption. If I were in the security field, I would be worried. I don't know how long this method will be safe.
It all does sound fantastical that is for sure.
danbaron
03-04-2011, 07:57
Even with millions of computers, it won't work, Kent.
First of all, you should realize that one of a public key's two prime factors must be less than or equal to its square root.
If a number, y, is the square root of x, then, y * y = x.
We're talking about two numbers (prime factors), say b and c, such that b * c = x.
If you think about it, you'll realize that if b is less than y, then c must be greater than y, and vice versa.
So, for a key, x, which is the product of two prime numbers (factors), we are guaranteed to find the smaller factor if we try all of the prime numbers less than or equal to the square root of x.
How do we test a particular prime number, t? We just do the calculation x / t. If the remainder is 0, then we have found a factor. And, in that case, the other factor, is the quotient.
(In the calculation 6 / 2 = 3, 6 is the dividend, 2 is the divisor, and 3 is the quotient. So, when you determine the two prime factors of a public key, the key will be the dividend, the smaller factor will be the divisor, and the larger factor will be the quotient.)
The maximum possible value for a 256 bit key is 2^256 - 1, equals,
115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639935.
For that key, we might have to check all of the prime numbers up to its square root.
Its square root is,
sr = 3.402823669209385e+038.
So, how many prime numbers are less than sr?
There is a formula which estimates the number of prime numbers less than any value, v.
It is pi(v) = v / ln(v). (<-- ln(v), is the natural logarithm of v, the logarithm to base e, 2.71828..)
As v becomes bigger and bigger, the formula becomes more and more accurate. When v reaches infinity, the formula is exact.
We can estimate the number of prime numbers less than sr, as,
np = sr / ln(sr), = 3.835341275459348e+036.
np is the maximum number of prime numbers we might need to test.
Now, let's calculate how long it would take to test np prime numbers.
Let's say we have a billion computers each testing a billion prime numbers per second (and we have the computers synchronized so that no prime is tested more than once).
Then, the time in years it would take to test all np primes, would be approximately,
yrs = np / (10^9 * 10^9 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 365.25), = 121534631134 years.
That is 121,534,631,134 years, or approximately, 121.5 billion years.
The universe is estimated to be 13.7 billion years old.
So, the calculation could take as long as 8.86 times the age of the universe.
It means that trying to "break" a 256 bit public key, is too hard - unless you have a quantum computer.
(By the way, every positive integer can be factored into n prime numbers, for some integer, n. For instance,
30 = 2 * 3 * 5,
40 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 5. (<-- Here, the prime factorization has duplicate primes, i.e., 2^3 * 5.)
(A prime number's factorization is, itself, right?)
So, why does a 256 bit public key use numbers which are composed of only two prime factors? Why not, for instance, 256 bit public keys that are composed of ten prime factors? I think the answer is, that the more factors a key has, the easier it is to find them. So, a key with just two prime factors is the hardest to break. (A key could not have just one prime factor, because then it would be a prime, and therefore, the public key and the private key would be identical.))
:oops: :twisted:
Dan amazing explanation and calculations as always!
Wow, is all I can say when thinking about the size of those numbers!!!
danbaron
04-04-2011, 01:29
All the governments use this prime number method, I guess with the 256 bit public keys. So, even though everyone knows what the method of encryption is, no one can decode a message, unless they have the recipient's private key. (Incidentally, there is the vulnerability that cannot be eliminated, right? A recipient has to keep his private key somewhere, yes? Ruthless people could just threaten him or his family, correct?)
Another way to keep messages secret, is to use a secret method of encryption. I think there are lots of ways to encrypt messages which would make it almost impossible for a government to decrypt them, even with their super computers, if they did not know the method of encryption you used.
How could you encrypt a message so that it would be extremely difficult to decrypt?
I would do it using a pseudo-random number generator.
There are some which have extremely large cycles before repeating.
The private key would be the integer you used to "seed" the generator with, i.e., to determine where in the sequence (the loop) the generation of numbers began.
Then, I would use the generator to do all of the following:
1.
I would map every character in the message into a new random ASCII character set, --> I would have a new coded alphabet.
2.
Say, for instance the message was 1,000 characters. Then, I would make the encryption document, say, 10,000 characters. So, in the encrypted message, 9 of 10 characters would be, "garbage".
3.
I would generate 10,000 random characters to use as the encryption document.
4.
I would overwrite 1,000 of those random characters, putting my message, now with the random alphabet, into random locations within the 10,000 character encryption document.
I would not tell anyone how I encrypted the message. So, even if someone had the key, it wouldn't do him any good.
And, my speculation is, that any government could work until the end of time, and would not be able to decrypt the message.
(But, absolutely, I may be over-confident. I know there are many things I don't know.)
:x :twisted:
I think about this stuff when I worry about a New World Order and things becoming even more of a Nanny State. I can't believe how much we have allowed to be taken from us since I was a kid. If you told me 40 years ago the US would be as it is now, I and probably everyone in my neighborhood would have said, only in a bad movie could it be so :)
Anyways nice to know there will still hopefully be a good secure way to communicate if things go for the worse.
danbaron
04-04-2011, 21:27
Concerning how this country has changed -
Oink, oink.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/04/04-4 (http://www.thinbasic.com/community/Oink,%20oink.%20%20%20%20%20http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/04/04-4)
$400 billion more tax revenue per year!
Guess where we could find it!!
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/04/04-3
Class Warfare Scorecard -
Guess who's winning?!
http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney04042011.html
:yes: