Scary Start For Internet Users

[kryton9]

I heard about this on Coast to Coast to while listening started researching. Two items of concern for us users and freedom on the internet.

1. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/world/09wiki.html
Dept of Justice in the US is requesting access to all accounts in search for people who followed wikileaks and in turn who followed them. YIKES! I dropped my twitter and Facebook accounts a couple of months ago fearing this sort of craziness sometime in the future, just surprised it came so soon.

2. Now this, you can imagine-- how it will start out perhaps innocent sounding, but anytime something like this passed it has lead to major incursion into freedom in a short amount of time. Usually it goes like this, a simple registration, then some sort of license and then putting restrictions on use of whatever freedom you once had.

Anyways, now they want to require in the United States a required ID before logging on and using the internet.
http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/feds-propose-universal-internet-drivers-license-0417/

I will hate losing my friends on the internet but if something like this passes I will never get on the internet again.

[danbaron]

Governments will never leave the internet alone, right?

It's too big, they can't stand it being unregulated.

But, I wouldn't worry too much about them (the government) coming after you. Everyone looks at almost everything. And, they can't put everyone in jail.

I think, in the future we'll be safe, because, everyone will be on the internet, and so, they won't care about you or me; because, in a statistical sense, we are ordinary.

:p

[Charles Pegge]

I am sure the US administration will be getting plenty of friendly but robust diplomatic feedback on this behaviour, especially from the European nations.

I wonder how much caffeine they consume? Making decisions while under the influence :)

Charles

[kryton9]

It always seems to follow this sort of pattern though.
1. Someone call for a study on a solution to a problem. The problem is a problem for those control freaks, but for the rest of us, none of their business :)

2. Then some politician(s) takes up the cause. They say nothing will be permanent or required, just need to do it for this type of case only....

3. Soon it is required but with getting an id or license and paying a fee. The fee will be used for "problem" solution.

4. Then a database is made. Soon after more and more restrictions imposed. If you want this you need to get this permit or this next license and there we have it another freedom taken and controlled by someone else.

I think what the internet did is amazing. Besides the technological, communication and education marvel it has turned out to be... the really great thing is for me at least was hearing the voices of freedom coming out of the Scandinavian Countries, long held up as Socialist Utopias here. I think the Finns, Swedes, Icelanders and Norwegians seem to be the new voice of freedom in the world, at least in the youth. To me it is really refreshing.

Also I think the New World Order types are really unhappy that their strangle hold on what is released in the media is no longer strictly under their control. Yes they still dominate all major world papers, tv and radio news, but the news they don't want out is getting out on the internet and I think they want to squash that as soon as possible.

That is why I think these sort of stupid moves are going to be upon us sooner than we think. But there is hope. As long as there is resistance through out the world it will be hard to stop... at least I hope so.

[danbaron]

I hope the European countries resist. I hope all of the countries resist.

I agree with everything Kent said.

We all know that the governments, corporations, and world order puppet masters, want to regulate the internet for at least two reasons - money and control.

They are like parasites, they want to extract money from the internet's veins, meaning, they want to make us pay for anything and everything. A similar thing happens in third world countries when some type of resource is discovered, say, oil, for instance. Soon the guys in suits start showing up, and before long, the indigenous people no longer own the oil, the guys in the suits do. The internet is a resource too, yes or no?

And, they want to homogenize, pasteurize, sanitize, and deodorize, everything that is posted on the internet. How can you control the people, if you can't control their access to information and their communication?

I agree that the problem the power brokers have, is that their numbers are relatively tiny. We are the vast majority. History shows what happens when you push the people too far, you can ask Marie Antoinette. But, the power brokers will never stop trying - they must be continually confronted and resisted, seemingly, forever.

Right now, we can all communicate with each other, no matter where on this planet we live. The language problem seems largely to be solved. Those who are intent on controlling the future don't want us communicating. When people with common concerns communicate, they organize. When they organize, they are able to resist their masters. Our (de facto) masters want to keep us all in isolation.

Think about how much different history would have been, if there was not always a tiny group of people who viewed themselves as elites, and worked every minute of their lives, trying to manipulate and control everyone else. There is always that group which is not satisfied with a fair share, but instead demands everything - and cares not at all if everyone else suffers and dies - in fact, they want everyone else to at least die, if not suffer. There is always that small group of people, who do all they can to take advantage of other people.

[kryton9]

I guess we could always go back to the BBS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system) days if the internet is controlled in the scary way it is heading.