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Charles Pegge
20-11-2010, 12:59
Ken Robinson says schools kill creativity
2006
http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html


Sir Ken Robinson: Bring on the learning revolution!
2010
http://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_bring_on_the_revolution.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Robinson_(British_author)

zak
20-11-2010, 18:18
thank you Charles for this subject
first the school is a small scale prison, and a framework in wich the kids must fit inside exactly without some allowed fuzziness.
second the school teaches too much subjects, pushing lessons in the brain like pushing materials inside the hamberger.

third the school can be dangerous:
i remembered this case when i was a student in the ancient time; while we are inside a class a student asked the teacher to allow him to go to the toilet, the teacher refused, and he insist on that, while we are watching, then the student evacuate the urine on his chair.
after years i learned that it is extremely dangerous to suppress the urine excessively because the ureter which transfer the urine from kidney to the bladder have a delicate valve , so the bladder will exert a huge pressure against the valve and may destroy it. and then the life of the victim will be dark.
so never ever suppress the urine, whether you are in any place, no one will rescue you after that. the tv game show "Moment of Truth" teaches the people expressly to be shameless in talking about their deepest secrets which must known only by the god, so why shame for a biological necessity in emergencies !!.

after the above extreme criticism of the school , i must admit that it is necessary, at least it is capturing the noisy kids several hours. so this is the contradiction.

danbaron
20-11-2010, 22:08
I hated school from the first day of kindergarten. Absolutely, I cried when my mother left me there. To me, school was a child's version, of adult prison. The kids who conform and please those with power, prosper, just like in adult life. Those who refuse to give in to injustice, are persecuted by the administration. My experience was that school fills children's heads with lies, designed to make them controllable robots. The teachers told us a million times that if you study hard and get good grades, then you can go to college, and you will have a wonderful life (otherwise, you deserve to have a terrible future). As time passes, that idea becomes more and more false for everyone - the good jobs consist of finding ways to eliminate other people's jobs, and the other jobs are mechanized or sent to the poorest countries. And in this country, if a family member becomes chronically ill, and you remain loyal and devote yourself to the care of that person, then, no matter how many degrees you have, most likely, you are headed for poverty, and, no one will care even one bit. The teachers never mentioned that in school. And, if you found them today, and confronted them with their lies, they would ignore you, like Nazi prison guards, when confronted by their former prisoners. The big lie that school tells children, is that, society and life are honest. However, the longer you live, the more you realize, how dishonest they are.

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

"Wrong, Do it again!"
"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding."
"How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
"You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!"..

"Another Brick in the Wall"
Pink Floyd, 1979

peter
21-11-2010, 00:09
I loved Kindergarten!
We had not to work the whole day.
I loved the school because I learned to read and write some words.
I hate to be old and stupid because I am away from school .