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kryton9
18-09-2010, 04:01
I thought I would start this thread for links of really interesting UFO footage.

Here is one with some footage I had never seen before. If you are short on time, just move forward to the 3:15 time mark and take a look at those maneuvers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD0W0eu7_oc

zak
18-09-2010, 10:24
thanks kent for reminding us to the ufo phenomena, i will watch all the serries.
whats makes me mad why they do not contact the earth people?. i guess that either they have a religion , "a book like a bible", prohibiting them from contacting the people of the earth, or the earth is a scientific project conducted by the "security council of the united multiverses" to study our evolution .
i believe 100 % of the truth of this phenomena, even there are a lot of fake videos and pictures. it is natural that an infinity of universes and every universe have trillions of galaxies, to have people , many many people,
i remind the readers of the very brilliant thinbasic movie script made by Petr "MovieFX: Combining real and virtual, part 1 " , it has a very good simulation of a ufo:
http://community.thinbasic.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4425f6ef77a32e6eaf17a0f46a9c0993&topic=2928.msg22288
i will look at the code again.
you can reduce the shake of the scene by changing the lines:
camShake.x *= 10
camShake.y *= 10
to
camShake.x *= 2
camShake.y *= 2
but anyway we can't trust the aliens, every powerfull creature are by nature "savage, have no heart, ", we can see a protypes from humans already available here on the earth, the powerfull creature can't be good, simply because he must act , and his act must act on something outside himself, so he lose himself while he is blind and busy on killing the others.
the most famous phenomena resembles the ufo in the bizarre action is the ball lightning, which are very rare. there are a lot of videos about this phenomena in youtube.

danbaron
19-09-2010, 08:53
[font=courier new][size=8pt]Do advanced creatures (like us) continue to evolve?

If they do, what is the kind of evolution?

Is it physical, intellectual, emotional, and/or moral?

Is the evolution necessarily positive?

In other words, in 10,000 years, if humans still exist, -->

Will they look the same? If different, better or worse?

Will their intelligence change? If so, smarter or dumber?

Will they be emotionally the same? Or, better or worse?

Will they change morally? If so, for better or worse?

Would you expect to find beings traveling between the stars, who stop at Earth and do science experiments on humans, like humans do on worms and frogs?

As civilizations progress, will the vicious maintain a survival advantage? If, on the other hand, they come to be at a survival disadvantage, then they should die off, correct?

I think zak is saying that some people psychologically defend against death, by killing. By killing, they "hypnotize" (employ "magical thinking", like a child) themselves into believing that they have power over death, and that, therefore, they will never die. In that case, you would expect those emotionally under-developed adults, who fear death the most, to kill.

kryton9
22-10-2010, 05:29
This is an incredible video. Really amazing actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtTl9cGrJc&feature=player_embedded#!

As some commentators posted... I am surprised this video hasn't been deleted.

I never ever heard of airshow planes practicing at night, what a lame cover story. Besides what kind of plane can do what you see in the video?

zak
22-10-2010, 09:40
thank you kent, this is from the best ufo videos.
by chance yesterday i was watching on the tv a recorded episode of the "Moment of Truth" game show in the US, i found it in youtube today here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypGv_R6A8BI part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0aLNXt_XoM part 2

he claims to be abducted in 25 nov 1975 by a ufo, there was 6 other men who saw the ufo, look here:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/11420/Travis_Walton_UFO_Abduction_Interview__Rare_1979_/

he win $25000 from the "moment of Truth" but failed in the last question
the final question was : "Were you abducted by a UFO in (nov 5, 1975)?"
Walton answered: "Yes".
And then the big let down: "That answer is incorrent".
because his answer is different from the previously recorded session on the polygraph, indeed i wish he win the $100000, so i have disappointed, but anyway walton preserve his honest and the value of his story, and he does not sold it for a $100000.
the polygraph just register the elecro variations in the skin, and can't be critical in the great events which change the body in an unpredictable way.

kryton9
22-10-2010, 17:33
I never heard of that show before Zak. Wow, they really asked some tough personal questions... I would never go on a show like that. It was even difficult to watch.
His case is really famous. Almost any movie where you see scenes of abductions, I think many are based on his case. Having that many witnesses
and all that happened, it is one of the top abduction cases and as you pointed out, it has been in the headlines for many decades for a reason.

I search for and come across many videos, but I will only post those like I have so far, ones that are exceptional.

Here is also a recent Press Conference which was aired live on CNN. Which is a first, because usually none of the main stream media gives so much coverage.
Usually they are short clips with humor to make light of the video they might show. This is proof of national defense concerns and I am sure is taken seriously
by the defense department but again denied or made of light of in public as if nothing there.

Eye witness accounts of UFO's over nuclear missile sites and in some cases where they at will disabled the missiles or launch systems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI

Charles Pegge
23-10-2010, 12:23
UFO files: Winston Churchill 'feared panic' over Second World War RAF incident

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/7926037/UFO-files-Winston-Churchill-feared-panic-over-Second-World-War-RAF-incident.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10853905

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8520717.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8202432.stm

Petr Schreiber
23-10-2010, 12:49
This is slightly off-topic, but if you like UFOs, extraterrestrials and such, I cannot recommend enough the movie "District 9" from 2009. It made me totally excited in cinema last Autumn. I just bought it yesterday on DVD and my opinion did not changed. Highly recommended!

Just do not recommend to look on trailers, if you don't want to loose moments of surprise. The less you know before watching, the better ;)
It is the movie which inspired me for the UFO script Zak linked here.

One image to set the mood and hurry to nearest video rental (not sure if it is the proper word - it is like library, but you get DVD instead of book):
http://info-koktejl.cz/gallery/1256228856.jpg


Petr

zlatkoAB
23-10-2010, 20:28
I think that UFO not extraterestrial then is from earth.
US goverment have old naci technologie do you know that...?

kryton9
23-10-2010, 23:34
@Charles, that was shocking when I heard about that. Can you imagine being in WW2 and having to deal with all that meant and then to find out there were other players with exceptional crafts out there and possibly not from this planet? Too much to handle I bet.

@Petr, I have not seen that movie yet, but it is high on my list. There is a service here in the states now where you pay $9 a month and can watch tv and movies at any time as it is streamed. I have not signed up yet, but some of my friends have and they say the sci-fi content is not as full as we would like, so I am waiting for them to get all their dvd content on the streaming system before I sign up. But I did see that District 9 is already available and so when I do sign up, it will be the first movie I watch.

@Aurel, I think you will find all people interested in UFO's agreeing with you in that many for the UFO sightings are advanced secret earth based vehicles. The more I look at Nazi technology and all that they were researching it is a whole world of science meeting fiction it seems. From cultist beliefs of magic to finding artifacts of great significance the effort and progress made was incredible. The East and West did make huge leaps with the brilliant German scientists they took in after the war. There is a major book out in the US where the case is made that the Nazi space program is still going strong. The book is coauthored by a science analyst who was the science correspondent during the Apollo years for one of the most respected news services and anchors at the time, CBS and Walter Cronkite.

With secrets that is the problem. With whatever rumor or bit of information that is discovered it can be used to make many logical arguments, but without the bulk of the evidence still shrouded in secrecy this logic can go in so many wide directions it is too hard to comprehend. But I think the people have a right to know the truth no matter how scary it might be.

kryton9
03-04-2011, 06:58
Interesting because there are 4 separate videos of the same thing.
This has been on the internet but I was waiting for something like this and Jaime Maussan is always good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGn-peU4tDY

Charles Pegge
15-07-2011, 20:28
Project Camelot interviews Dr Steven Greer


(Robust Debate!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqDVOjtNhg

kryton9
15-07-2011, 20:54
That was a good one Charles. I had seen that and then later that sort of lead the way for the split of Project Camelot and then back together as 2 projects... Camelot and Avalon. There is an interesting interview of what happened here:
http://camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=37&id=31525&Itemid=164 you have to scroll through the other pages to get the full interviews.

Also here ere are some neat recent videos of UFO's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDIF-ZwJbF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQmut0XtD3s&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ygrHIWceas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYRyuL4Z5I&feature=related

Charles Pegge
16-07-2011, 17:05
UFOs are all over the place.

Article by Inelia Benz

http://www.ascension101.com/en/ascension-information/34-november-2010/103-ufos-are-all-over-the-place-alien-or-government.html

(http://www.ascension101.com/en/ascension-information/34-november-2010/103-ufos-are-all-over-the-place-alien-or-government.html)

kryton9
16-07-2011, 22:12
All of these strange light orbs that split and merge, some glow different colors. They are so hard to relate to. I guess they have been witnessed for sometime but video and photos of them just never really started to show up till cell phone and very small camcorders came to be. These are too advanced to be man made. They can fly in volcanoes, tornadoes, dust storms and underwater at will it seems.

I do think some of the metallic ufos, saucer shaped are man made. Reverse engineered from less advanced aliens vehicles that crashed. I used to think we only had one alien species the greys, but with youtube and all you can see and research on the internet, I am convinced that there are many species now.

This is a longer documentary with official government videos and stories from the Ecuadorian Disclosure that came to be after 20 some years of effort. You see many of these light ufos, the ones that appear really well in the London videos, so these are confirmed by a government and military to exist and can move unlike anything any country on Earth could make. I don't know why our media, well I do know... they are a controlled media, but with this Official evidence from Ecuador and some of the military cases that came out from Britain why the press here doesn't one day just ask the President to disclose like the Ecuadorian President did. They set up a very clever process to get the truth out and give protection to all who come forward and get Military and Press, the people to work together to find out what is going on.

This is 53 minutes long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyP88bY61I

danbaron
17-07-2011, 07:12
One thing I notice from listening to http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ many nights, is that each guest is absolutely convinced that whatever he is espousing is true. Another thing I notice is that, often guests on different nights totally contradict each other. So, in order for some of them to be correct, others of them must be wrong.

The interesting thing is that almost every guest seems perfectly psychologically normal. But, in my opinion, since the seemingly certain beliefs of some of them are absolutely wrong, some of them must be psychologically abnormal, no matter how they present themselves. It demonstrates to me that it is very difficult to judge the psychological state of a person from his public presentations.

Often over the years on the show, there are guests who claim they have alien implants. Some say they don't want to remove them. Some say that when a surgeon tries to remove them, the implants basically "flee" from the scalpel. Some say that when a surgeon tries to remove them, there is so much pain (even with an anesthetic) that the operation is abandoned. Some say that surgeons tell them that they are located such, that removal would result in death.

As I recall, usually the implants are located somewhere on the head, but never in the brain.

Maybe I am wrong, but, I have heard enough of these people, so that now my "lunatic detector" activates whenever I hear one.

http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/journalism/ufo97.html
(http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/journalism/ufo97.html)
http://www.cicap.org/new/articolo.php?id=101028

This guy, (next link) Wilbur Allen was on the radio show on 2011-07-14. He claims that he received an implant behind his ear when he was 5 or 6. Doctors tried to remove it around that time, but it was too painful and they aborted the procedure, and now he is glad that he has it. He sounded perfectly normal. He says that a voice speaks to him from the implant telling him where and when to set up his camera in order to capture UFO images. He uses a camera which has a shutter speed of 1/8000th of a second. He says that the UFOs move so fast that if he used a slower shutter speed, nothing would be recorded. (Do you think that him hearing a "voice" from the implant is reminiscent of any psychological disorder?) Also, the language of the text on his web-site seems weird to me. The thoughts seem disjointed. Also, notice his improper use of the word, "too", and his use of the word, "lightening", which, is not actually a word. To me, you can learn a a lot about a person's internal state, by reading what he writes. And, I wonder about native English speakers who have trouble with grammar, spelling, sentence and paragraph construction.

http://www.ufodc.com/

I react similarly now when I hear someone talking about the horrors of being afflicted with Morgellons Disease.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20063615-10391704.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons#Delusional_parasitosis_and_other_neuropsychological_disorders

kryton9
17-07-2011, 08:37
Dan, it is not only Coast to Coast that you have people who talk convincingly about matters that contradict other guests from previous nights. It is the case with politicians, pundits, economists and financial consultants. Even in judicial matters, which should be the hardest to disagree on-- because the law is written by so called experts in a manner that it should be clear to everyone practicing it. Yet you will see lawyers on even on something that is historic and a foundation of this country, such as in our Bill of Rights and they disagree on what it means.

This following first occurred to me during The Clinton Administration. Here is a man who everyone said is brilliant, yet he let down everyone by not having the decency and respect to his wife and family to cheat. He then lied about abusing his power and having sex with an underling and committed perjury. He has now since being out of office made over 70 million in speaking fees. How could this be, I thought at the time. And you had so many who defended him to such ridiculous lengths yet who in prior years went venomously against others of the opposing party who did minor things comparatively.

Then it hit me. We are all genetic mutants. Like the X-Men, but instead of having super powers our mutations are in our brains. In how we think, how we view right and wrong. How we see and interpret laws. The role of government in our lives, some want no government, while others want total governess of all aspects of our lives. I think that is why it is easy to consider others with some sort of mental condition, when we are all in one form or another a mental case depending on who is judging us and their mutation :)

danbaron
17-07-2011, 10:43
Tired now.

I agree with you.

Concerning Clinton, he makes me realize that for some people, no amount is enough. Whatever they have, they want more. And whatever position a person occupies, he is still subject to exactly the same compulsions as everyone else. Do you think Clinton has been faithful since then? Do you think Hillary has? As another example, look at Dominique Gaston André Strauss-Kahn (link), he was head of the IMF, and his wife, Anne Sinclair (link), is worth $200,000,000. Still, he had to be doing the chamber maid. And when they walked out of the NY court, they were holding hands, and looked as happy as newlyweds. Apparently, it doesn't matter to her, who he does. Seemingly, for people at the top, morality, right and wrong, is just not very important. And, if they can't trust each other, then, why would anyone else ever trust them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Strauss-Kahn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Sinclair

Concerning the law, I have no respect for it. In my opinion, its true function is always to protect and maintain the system which instituted it, exactly as it is. Anyone who thinks it has anything to do with fairness, is, in my opinion, dreaming. Additionally, it is completely subjective. If it wasn't, there would not be such huge fights over Supreme Court nominees.

And, in almost every field, "experts" espouse what is best for themselves, not what is best overall.

But, I still suspect that those who say they have alien implants or Morgellons Disease, are substantially more cuckoo than average.

Charles Pegge
17-07-2011, 14:25
Dan and Kent,

George Kavassilas is probably the most abducted and implanted person known on the web. He has the most jaw-dropping, apocalyptic ideas about our imminent future that I have ever heard. Yet he comes across as a warm, often humorous and highly intelligent person with considerable sensitivity and compassion.

There is an abundance of Utubes of George but very little written material. But I eventually managed to find this piece which give a fair synopsis of his experiences and ideas.

Does this resonate with you in any way?

http://www.atsdeck.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=450:george-kavassilas-new-lecture-q-our-journey-a-the-greatest-secret-on-earthq&catid=58:contactee-experienceset-messages&Itemid=90


Charles

kryton9
17-07-2011, 23:48
I just glanced at it Charles. I will reply when I have time to read it. It might take some time.

Dan, you need to hear Dr. John Leir's accounts. But till you get a faster internet here is a written account. I can't say it addresses all implants and accounts, but of the ones he worked on, it is pretty compelling evidence and in the videos you can see and hear about it all. http://www.ufodigest.com/surgeon.html

About Morgellons, I don't know much about it. Usually when it comes to medical stuff I usually shy away. But my Dad is a retired physician and he and his retired friends still like to attend medical conferences. I drive my Dad there and then after the meeting he and his friends will sit around and talk about the meeting and I usually just surf on my netbook. Anyways, I remember about 2 years ago them talking about this new disease Morgellons. I had never heard of it and neither had they and I was surprised with all their combined years in medicine that something important would be covered that they had not heard about, that it is why the name stuck with me. This hospital they attend the meetings at is a good hospital one of the top 100 in the country. So apparently there must be something to it that this good hospital would have a meeting about it.

What have you heard about it?

danbaron
18-07-2011, 06:40
I didn't know your dad was a doctor, Kent. I can imagine them discussing medicine, and you on the computer.

People with Morgellons are convinced that fibers (which they think are inorganic), are growing out of their skin. It seems that the afflicted become driven almost to madness by the skin sensations they experience.

http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Morgellons-Disease/support-group

If you look in the Wikipedia article,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons#Delusional_parasitosis_and_other_neuropsychological_disorders

you can see,

"Delusional parasitosis, with symptoms that have 'extraordinary similarities' to Morgellons, has been described in the medical literature for over 75 years."

The medical establishment has decided that there is no such physical illness.

On the other hand, as I'm sure you know, people who are convinced they have a physical illness, do not usually react positively when they are told that what they are experiencing is psychosomatic.

I looked a little bit at the Roger Leir article.

"On February 22, 1996, the first preliminary lab reports came back on the metal itself. Leir and Sims both said they would await the final reports before announcing any details. They stressed that they had sent the samples for testing to highly specialized labs and had not indicated anything about where the samples came from. Dr. Leir told the Thousand Oaks audience that the preliminary findings are "mind-boggling," and that the first metallurgist simply said: "Wow, you guys really found something here." Dr. Leir stated that as soon as they get final reports from all three labs, they will make their findings public. "I think you're watching history," he said in conclusion."

I will say that, February 22, 1996, was a long time ago.

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http://georgekavassilas.org/

"It is essential to know that you exist beyond this Earthly incarnation, but it is
imperative to know that nothing exists beyond your eternal and infinite self."
- George Kavassilas

I wish I had a faster connection.

I already believed that the reason life is so hard, and is becoming harder, is because those at the top are trying to make it that way for the vast majority of living beings. If they are getting extraterrestrial help, then, maybe that is why they apparently have been so successful up to now. And, if something is coming which they don't want, but are powerless to stop, then, hooray for the triumph of the good.

I like George's basic message, which seems to be that in the end, we have something very positive to anticipate, and that we will continue to "be" in some form.

We can endure a lot, if and when we have hope that the ending will be good, correct?

But, I will quibble about one thing.

From what I know of science, I don't know how Earth could become a star.

Its mass is too small to generate enough internal gravitational pressure.

It is made of the wrong elements, stars are composed of hydrogen and helium.

-----------------------------------------------------

I am still looking at this site, which I like.

http://stevebeckow.com/

I have almost finished reading this one.

http://www.angelfire.com/space2/light11/nmh/dark1.html#first

kryton9
18-07-2011, 11:28
I asked my Dad about that meeting at dinner tonight, he couldn't recall it. I asked him if he remembered if the meeting was about a real disease or something psychosomatic and then his girlfriend said that for years they said fibromyalgia and lymes disease were psychosomatic, but that she had not heard about this one. I left it at that and really can't comment more.

In reading your description of it, images of the movie "The Fly" came to my mine's eye. Sure sounds scary!

kryton9
18-07-2011, 11:40
Charles I read that article and watched part of his video. This is an area I just can't relate to. David Wilcox is another guy that seems to be connected to so many others in this field and I could never understand him. But seeing these vehicles of light orbs, I have to keep an open mind. A lot of what they say sort of fits how these crafts come and go.

Also there are tons of UFOs captured by NASA in the ultraviolet spectrum that look like pulsing jellyfish, I would put those in the hard to relate and digest category also. What are your thoughts?

Charles Pegge
18-07-2011, 20:14
Jellyfish above Mexico City!



the object looked like it had veins or seemed to have a biological membrane. "I believed I was watching a living creature, not a balloon or a rigid mechanical craft."


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/75614/Close_Up_Shots_of_Jellyfish_Like_UFO/

Charles Pegge
18-07-2011, 20:56
Zimbabwe 1994

I first heard about this incident from my Zimbabwean cousins.


Report:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case127.htm



http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/22730/UFO_and_ET_encounter_with_62_children/

(http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/22730/UFO_and_ET_encounter_with_62_children/)Further videos, more detail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HScN3usfNoc



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRnwB-YJmrQ&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuIJJsh3phk&feature=related



Charles

kryton9
19-07-2011, 05:11
Jellyfish above Mexico City!http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/75614/Close_Up_Shots_of_Jellyfish_Like_UFO/ That camera lens was something to see. That could be a weather balloon just looking at the stills. It would have been nice to see video of it in motion and what the pulsing motion was like.

kryton9
19-07-2011, 05:55
I was glad to see Dr. John Mack there and that this was before his untimely death. I was surprised to see how so many of the students had bad feelings at and after the encounter. This is counter to what you would expect kids to have. It also sort of backs up what Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan say that perhaps we should not think just because these aliens are advanced that they are all good intention-ed.

I was surprised that none of the teachers saw them. You don't have recess in the US without supervision of teachers, so it was surprising to me that the teachers were in a meeting inside while all the kids were outside without supervision. Especially when the wild is adjacent to the playground like that. There could be snakes and other animals that could be a danger to the kids.

The kids were great. I liked how they thought about each question and realized how important it was and that they be as clear as they could. I found them credible and am convinced they saw what they did. What nailed it for me was the little girl who talked about the other craft taking off about a meter into the air and then just disappearing. You don't make that kind of stuff up because it sounds to far fetched for adults to believe. It shows them trying their best to describe what they saw and be honest no matter how silly it might sound to adults.

Charles Pegge
19-07-2011, 07:49
This similar incident was mentioned in one of the videos. It happened in February 1977, near Broadhaven, in Pembrokeshire, about 20 miles from where I live.
I was at university and my brother was at boarding school at the time so we missed out on the sensation.

http://www.uk-ufo.org/condign/secfilwelsh1.htm

http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/wales/dyfed/ufos/broad-haven.html

Charles

PS: Unsupervised play time would be the norm at that time. Most of those children in Rua would be from farming families and would well understand the danger of snakes and other hazards of the countryside.

Charles Pegge
19-07-2011, 10:29
Dr John E Mack


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edward_Mack


The Experiencers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xTQ2-S1n-Q

kryton9
19-07-2011, 21:55
There are so many aspects to all of this. The best explanation to me is there is more than one alien race, some secret government projects and a break away group of humans with advanced technology. All in itself amazing subjects!

Charles Pegge
22-08-2011, 07:30
More saucers. Loads of them!

Mass UFO sighting over Carmichael, California

13-Aug-2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwGk2gaGHQI

kryton9
23-08-2011, 05:04
With all of these videos, why doesn't one supposed newsman ask a defense minister somewhere about security over the skies. They have taken our rights away under the disguise of safety against terrorist threats, yet here are unknown craft in air space in many cases major cities over buildings and no one answers for it.

I just got done watching an hour video on youtube of recent compilation of ufo video that appeared on mainstream media. Many of them were of similar objects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5l3Qh2vl-0

Charles Pegge
23-08-2011, 14:25
The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis - Objections and Counter-Arguments

http://www.uforq.asn.au/articles/hypothesis.html

The Trouble with Humanoids

http://www.uforq.asn.au/articles/humanoids.html

The Galactic Race of Man

http://www.uforq.asn.au/articles/galactic.html

kryton9
16-09-2011, 02:36
Former National Aeronautics and Space Administration Data and Photo Control Department manager, Ken Johnston, who worked for the space agency's Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the Apollo missions has been fired for telling the truth.
Johnston asserts NASA knows astronauts discovered ancient alien cities and the remains of amazingly advanced machinery on the Moon. Some of the technology can manipulate gravity.

He says the agency ordered a cover-up and forced him to participate in it....

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1091/566/NASA_Whistleblower:_Alien_Moon_Cities_Exist.html

danbaron
16-09-2011, 05:55
The articles are interesting.

Concerning the pictures, I can't explain them.

Where could that thing found by Lunik 13, have come from?

Disappointingly, two of the pictures are not focused correctly, the "tire", and the closeup of the head.

It is beyond my comprehension, why they would not have brought back the head.

It would have been the most amazing discovery in history.

The pyramid is perfect.

I doubt anyone will convince me that it was created naturally.

kryton9
17-09-2011, 02:18
I went back to that article to make it all sink in numerous times. As you said the robot head is amazing and as the astronaut said, he couldn't believe his eyes seeing in person with all that clarity of vision he had on site. They probably thought the government would announce the finds and they would be back with archaeological teams for proper excavation of such an important site, but we know that didn't happen at least to our knowledge.

danbaron
17-09-2011, 07:34
I heard Richard Hoagland on Coast-to-Coast talk about the head, and at the time I thought, here is more b.s.

But, if the photographs are real, it is amazing to me that absolutely nothing has come of it.

No explanations, nothing.

I don't understand it.

Here, like for 9/11, is another example where the government is amazingly uncommunicative, and you hardly hear a whisper of complaint.

To me, overall, people are slightly smarter versions of sheep.

And, most of them you can call sheep to their faces, and they will not even look up, but will continue eating the grass.

I wonder if anyone at NASA has denied that the photographs are genuine.

One strange thing to me, is that there is only one closeup of the head, and one semi-closeup of the "tire" (unless others were withheld), and they are out of focus.

Were the astronauts who took the pictures, complete idiots?

And, if you were walking on the Moon, and happened upon the head, would you leave it there, or would you bring it back?

In fact, if you were walking on the moon, and came upon anything that was not dirt or a rock, would you step over it, or take it?

(What is the pyramid, a speck of dust on Hubble's lens?)

:?:

kryton9
17-09-2011, 08:55
I've seen a funny new word on some forums that sums up the public when it comes to thinking a little deeper, sheeple :)

Charles Pegge
17-09-2011, 12:32
http://stevenjohnhibbs.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/sheeple-friends.jpg?w=449&h=337

danbaron
18-09-2011, 07:54
I don't mean to denigrate sheep by comparing them to an inferior species.

I like sheep, goats, deer, etc., all herbivores.

Isn't it axiomatic that any animal with hooves is a herbivore?

(Notice how stupid the English language is.

The plural of "hoof", is "hooves".

But the plural of "roof", is "roofs".

You are forced to remember individual cases.

Another one:

(present/future tense): I will "lead" the parade.

(past tense): I "led" the parade.

And, "led" is a homophone for "lead", meaning the element.

How dumb can a language be?)

Charles Pegge
18-09-2011, 14:20
I think the irregularities in a language are often used to detect those who are not members of your clan. Accents perform a similar function. I am sure these irregularities will eventually become as obsolete as medieval English. They no longer serve any useful purpose.

Then there is the Biblical legend about the tower of Babel. According to one current exo-political interpretation, a malevolent group of ETs, headed by one particularly capricious overlord wanted to make humanity subservient to them, so they blocked the earthlings' telepathic abilities and isolated the populations forcing them to develop separate languages. - Divide and conquer!

Charles

danbaron
19-09-2011, 00:53
A nurse, originally from Odessa, told me about this.

She was right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_orthography_reform_of_1996

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I don't mean you, but from listening to my radio show so often, I know that some people think that humans were developed by ETs, as a slave species.

That theory, I don't believe at all.

We can already see, that as technology advances, humans don't even want to use human labor.

We see that machines are more efficient in almost every way imaginable.

Who would believe that beings far more advanced than we are today, would have any interest in using people to do work for them?

(And, to me, the economic elephants in the living room are that capitalism and free markets have no solutions for the looming problems of, planetary eco-system destruction, the end of growth, finite resources, and the fact that as time passes, it becomes harder and harder for more and more people to find work which can sustain them (Probably, right-wingers will say that people can always find work. And, maybe technically they are correct. But, practically, is there any sense (cents?, --> homophone) in working for one cent per hour? Of course, those making the statement are not in the situation which they lecture everyone else about.). However, those at the top are smart enough to realize that the way for them to stay there, is to gain control over the remaining resources.)

Power to the people (sing it with me).

One,
two,
three,

Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Say you want a revolution
We better get on right away
Well you get on your feet
And out on the street

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

A million workers working for nothing
You better give 'em what they really own
We got to put you down
When we come into town

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

I gotta ask you comrades and brothers
How do you treat you own woman back home
She got to be herself
So she can free herself

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Now, now, now, now

Oh well, power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Yeah, power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on ..

kryton9
19-09-2011, 05:33
I think we should all start learning Esperanto as Arnold Rimmer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Rimmer) was trying in Red Dwarf :)

Under subsection Personality:
...Rimmer has also been attempting to learn Esperanto for eight years, but has failed miserably.

Charles Pegge
19-09-2011, 06:46
From 'The Nature of Darkness' Inelia Benz
http://www.ascension101.com/en/ascension-information/31-september-2010/95-the-nature-of-darkness-in-duality.html?start=3




As I was growing up, I had a recurring dream. In this dream there were two universes, one Light and one Dark. In the Light universe, everything was beautiful, happy and harmonious. On the Dark universe there was great suffering, slavery, pollution and more.The "Creator" decided that these two universes could learn from one another. That, somehow, if they joined, their evolution would be tremendous. Or something in those lines, in my dream I simply felt it was a "good idea".There was no way to join these two universes because, due to their absolute nature, they could not see each other.

The "Creator" decided to make a being which was both Light and Dark. This being was a construct that had one purpose only, that of entering each universe and "infecting it" with the opposite "color".The being entered the Light Universe first. It was welcomed there with trust and love. But every one he/she touched, then became sick. Sickness was unknown and the beings began to die, suffer and question their existence. After a few thousand planets were infected, the being went to the Dark Universe. However, as now there was darkness in the Light universe, it had become visible to the Dark universe and Dark beings were already preparing an assault on the Light universe.The being of "Light and Dark" entered the Dark universe and was met with distrust and quickly enslaved. However, everyone who came into contact with the being was infected with Light. These beings began to suffer from compassion, love and other unspeakable things.

Soon, the being was helped to escape.The beings in the Dark universe that were infected with Light, also had a deep understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the Light universe.Meanwhile, in the Light universe, an attempt was made to "help" and "fix" those beings who now possessed Darkness. Planets throughout the Light universe began to help, but were instead infected. It was realized that these "infected" planets had to be quarantined and beings within them started experiencing the first sense of "disconnection" from source.

Unlike the book "The Return of Light", which states that it was the Dark beings who created a wall; in my dream it was the Light which made the barrier around the infected planets.The Dark universe rulers, eager to expand their territory, began a complete assault on the Light Universe. Because the Light Universe had separated the infected galaxies off from the rest, the forces of Darkness were only able to have access to infected planets in those galaxies, and not the rest of that Light universe.This is where my childhood dream ends.
...



http://www.hnorthrop.com/escher.jpg

Charles

kryton9
19-09-2011, 20:02
Ok Charles, now I see where the writers of Lexx came up with their wild stories, they must have read the same works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx#The_Light_Universe_and_Dark_Zone

kryton9
19-09-2011, 20:05
This is solid evidence from people in high positions. This is one that disbelievers and skeptics should watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GpadrhpUG0

kryton9
19-09-2011, 20:08
Incredible videos from Italy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_09AQClOIQ

zak
19-09-2011, 20:20
i like the above depiction by escher: good U evil, angel U devil, beauty U ugly ,the same self have two or multi sides. and this will be forever as the engine of existence. sad way the existence like that.

Charles Pegge
21-09-2011, 01:12
George Adamski was referred to in the Urzi Video

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Adamski


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EttKw7ROGN8

Charles Pegge
30-09-2011, 07:22
The O'Hare Airport UFO incident
Nov 7 2006

Heroic denial by the FAA in the face of overwhelming evidence. This would make a great comedy sketch :)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O'Hare_International_Airport_UFO_sighting





The Newsroom

Uncut video showing discussion before an interview. Very interesting peek behind the stage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5yOYI9PH1s



Charles

danbaron
30-09-2011, 08:17
What is the point of lying?

Is it just standard policy for every government agency, that, when asked a question, to never tell the truth?

If we knew that, then, we would have the code for yes or no questions, "yes" <==> "no".

And, if a government agency denies a FOIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_(United_States) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_%28United_States%29)) request, it means, the information contradicts the government's official position, or, is information that, if released to the public, has probability greater than 0, of ceding some of the government's power to the citizens.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/sep/cia-s-global-warming-center-national-security-secret

Charles Pegge
30-09-2011, 11:44
Letter from Sirius :)

I am fascinated by these:

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/mike30-09-11.html

danbaron
01-10-2011, 06:44
I like them too.

They are very well written.

It seems they are not intended to be regarded as fiction.

So, I hope there is something real there, something more than an intoxicant for cultist mentalities.

(On the other hand, the case could be made that, false hope is better than no hope. While the false hope is working, real hope could always appear, yes? We see it when little kids believe in fairy tales. It helps them until their brains become more developed.)

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From SaLuSa's message:

"and it continues to increase exponentially"

I have a problem when people use that phrase.

Say, y = xz.

And, z = 10-50.

Then,

y(1) = 1,

and,

y(101000) = 1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000023025850929940456840179914546843642076011014886552824665857198910204..

From,

http://www.wolframalpha.com/

(http://www.wolframalpha.com/), --> "N[(10^1000)^(10^(-50))]".

So, there is no guarantee that exponential growth, is fast growth.

In fact, for exponential growth, there is no guarantee that the growth is positive.

For instance,

If z = -50, then,

y(0) = infinity,

y(1) = 1,

and,

y(101000) = 10-50000.

Charles Pegge
01-10-2011, 17:16
There been false 'end of the worlds' in every generation so it is impossible to say whether these messages, eloquent as they are, have any validity until something tangible happens.

Several other channels predict very similar scenarios. We will soon find out whether they are real or not. The show begins around November the 11th. Make a note of this date in the diary!

The remaining dark controllers (all of them, hardcore capitalists) are to be escorted off the planet without their ill gotten gains, full disclosure, new global financial system and general planetary makeover in preparation for planets Earth's dimensional shift at the end of 2012. It's a very tight schedule.

I hope Eros will be able to have thinBasic 2.0 up and running by then. The technology might be a little different thereafter :)

Charles

jack
01-10-2011, 19:18
there's no doubt in my mind that the earth is heading for a new era, but first we will have chaos like we possibly never had before,
the signs of world-wide economic-financial/monetary collapse are loud and clear, also the recent upsurge of Islam is another sign of imminent social chaos add to that the horrific natural disasters that the Bible foretells and you have hell on earth.

danbaron
01-10-2011, 20:10
To me, it's interesting.

Intelligent people who believe there is more to existence than what we have experienced on this planet with our five senses.

(Who is smarter, the one who is convinced that all there is, is in plain view, or the one who is convinced that we can sense only a small part of reality?)

If you think about it, wouldn't that be the worst nightmare of those at the top, who make life here so miserable for almost everyone?

As I get older, and this life seems more and more finite, doubt about whether this life is all there is, becomes stronger.

(I think we live in a world which is functionally materialist, functionally positivist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positivism), functionally cruel - which constantly is implicitly broadcasting the message, "This life is all there is, there will be no retribution, take as much as you can from the weak now. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. Revel in your sadistic decadence, your extravagance and luxury, euphoric in the knowledge that you are the cause of the miserable lives and premature deaths, of so many others.". If you think about it, it's like ancient Rome, yes?)

As they get older, unless they are really dumb, they must think about it too.

Good.

Let them be buried in jewel encrusted golden coffins!

(And, if there are guardians watching us, who see what they are doing and have decided to intervene (like an older kid who is watching a bully on the playground), better.)

danbaron
02-10-2011, 07:55
All of this makes me wonder if in the future, sadism will be viewed as an addiction which the powerful are prone to.

Think about how the Roman royalty ate and drank, while being entertained by starving animals eating helpless people.

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And, by the way, what is a powerful person minus his power?

No one that you or anyone else would glance twice at.

Their secret is the fact that they are constructed from exactly the same material, and in exactly the same way, as everyone else.

danbaron
07-10-2011, 01:10
Does it seem suspicious that SaLuSa is from Sirius, which happens to be the brightest star in Earth's night sky?

http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm

Does it make sense that Sirius is a binary system, which is only 200-300 million years old (Earth itself is 4.54 billion years old.)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

(I guess I'm preparing myself for what I suspect will be coming non-events. You learn to expect what you are accustomed to getting, yes or no?)

"In next to no time you will be reaching that magical 11.11.11, when each soul will be lifted up whether they are aware of it or not."

Is, "whether they are aware of it or not", the first "legal" loophole, as 2011-11-11 approaches?

http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/channeled messages/October 2011/salusa__5october2011.htm (http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/channeled%20messages/October%202011/salusa__5october2011.htm)

Why, 11.11.11?, why not, 11.10.11?, is it because, all '1's, seems more mysterious?

Charles Pegge
07-10-2011, 22:54
SaLusa might be compared (perhaps unkindly) with one from an earlier generation, Ashtar in the 1950s.

Unfortunately Ashtar and his retinue never showed up.

These persons really put their credibility on the line when they make predictions. I'm not sure why it has to be 11/11/11. I think it unlikely we are numerologically synchronised to a galactic calendar.

We could conduct a poll to see if we are feeling improved in anyway after this date. :)

Charles



Ashtar Command


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtar_(extraterrestrial_being)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Van_Tassel
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1904.htm

danbaron
08-10-2011, 06:56
(Giant Rock (Yucca Valley), is about 100 miles SE of my house.)

On our radio show, Coast-to-Coast, we have heard Nancy Lieder.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

She was able to channel Zetas at will.

The host (George Noory - the most credulous (or maybe just a very greedy man, who pretends to be credulous) man alive) would alternately speak to her, and then to one of the Zetas speaking through her.

If I remember correctly, Planet X was going to return in March (amended to May) of 2003, and 90% of humans would be killed.

http://www.2012hoax.org/nancy-lieder

(http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/ZetaTalk)http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/ZetaTalk
(http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/ZetaTalk)
Update: Now I see that Nancy Lieder will again be on Coast-to-Coast, on Tuesday night. My opinion is, for that show, enough passing time rehabilitates any guest's credibility.

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In the first link above, they suggest by another link, that these phenomena may be explained by paranoid schizophrenia.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/paranoid-schizophrenia/DS00862/DSECTION=symptoms

Assuming their messages to the world are not true, it is difficult for me to think of a rational motivation.

(Of course, there is no (relativity?) physical law which says that it is impossible for space aliens to be in the vicinity of Earth, and to contact humans through some form of telepathy. We are skeptical because, we have no evidence that it has ever happened. Similarly, we are skeptical if someone claims to have seen a white (albino?) crow.)

On the other hand, SaLuSa's messages are very well written.

But, the paranoid schizophrenia link does say,

"With paranoid schizophrenia, you're less likely to be affected by mood problems or problems with thinking, concentration and attention." (meaning as opposed to other types of schizophrenia)

I guess it would be wrong to put them all in the same basket. Certainly, some are con-artists. Maybe, those who are con-artists, only attach dates to events when they feel forced to.

I would put Joseph Smith into the con-artist category.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith

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I think it's hard for most (thinking) people to go through life believing in nothing - convinced that their lives have no meaning.

And, what can be said about such a person (who thinks life is meaningless), who then has offspring anyway?

I guess he might espouse that life is worth living for itself (whatever that means) - but to me, such an explanation, is b.s.

I think anyone with a brain realizes that just because my life, which I am convinced is devoid of meaning, seems worthwhile to me, it in no way guarantees that my offspring will feel the same way (especially because of the likelihood that my offspring's circumstances will be completely different from mine).

I think, for the person who is a nihilist and has children anyway, what (at least in part) makes his life worth living, is having children (and, in that case, his biological programming, has succeeded - in order to feel happy he needs children). So, I would say that this person has children primarily for his own ego gratification.

kryton9
09-10-2011, 03:02
It to me is easy to get caught up with predictions... it sort of works like superstition. Once you start, its like a ball rolling down a hill. I used to be very superstitious growing up, mainly because I saw my Mom and Dad had their own. But mine got out of hand for me, so I decided I would just stop and let the chips fall. I might let some old superstition get the better of me time to time, but I am able to stop and use logic.

Now as a kid there was this old lady who said prayers in full moon with salt or other mixture and she cured Warts. I saw it with my own eyes the number of people she cured as a kid. So there is something beyond normal logic, I am convinced, but where logic and the mystical cross I don't know. I just keep an open mind.

I can see how a couple of hundred years back I would have really been a big believer in Astrology. Seeing all those stars and planets and the fact that Astrologers could predict when what would be in the sky... powerful stuff. And time that with a few coincidental predictions, it would take a Spock like mind to ignore :)

danbaron
09-10-2011, 07:46
Warts have no feeling, so, you can just cut them off as close to the skin as you are able, with a pair of scissors or wire cutters.

Then, if you're not squeamish, you can burn off the remainder with something hot, like a soldering iron.

(My experience, is that you can do the same thing with moles. If you have one that looks "funny", and you don't want to go to the doctor, then, you can just burn it off with a soldering iron or a wood burning tool. If you just sort of repeatedly tap it, then, it doesn't hurt, and pretty soon the entire thickness of skin will be gone.)

(No charge.)

Dan

Charles Pegge
13-11-2011, 23:33
Just a few...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hz5uhvHX6g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hz5uhvHX6g&feature=player_embedded)

danbaron
14-11-2011, 00:57
Montague Keen is back.

He is saying that Enda Kenny is honest.

And that the reason Ireland's financial troubles have dropped off of the world radar, is because, Kenny knows things about the banks, which they are afraid he will make public.

http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/montague13-11-11.html

Who wouldn't want it to be genuine (actually, I can speculate who)?

Charles Pegge
17-11-2011, 12:44
Former Canadian defence minister Paul Hellyer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fu-eo2TZT4



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer

kryton9
22-11-2011, 08:36
Well the US Government just said there was nothing to UFO's, so we can just ignore all of credible witnesses, video and other official agency documents about the matter :)
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/

danbaron
22-11-2011, 08:58
I looked at the article.

I guess the guy is saying that all conspiracy theories are false.

If he believes that, then, who is naive/crazy?

And, to me, from experience, it is always best to assume the government is lying, when it says anything at all.

And, guess what? - that is learned behavior.

People learn from their experiences.

I bet most everyone has met someone in their lives, who they come to realize, always lies.

Then, after awhile, they don't believe anything he says.

With the government we should function differently?

We should reassure ourselves that we can trust our politicians?

I know we can be harmed by trusting the government.

But, what harm can come from not trusting it?

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I saw this.

I can't watch it.

For me, downloading a 20 minute video, is a big project.

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/11/mary-joyce-on-the-underground-ufo-base-at-pisgah-nc/#more-80248

Charles Pegge
22-11-2011, 12:27
website run by Mary Joyce

http://skyshipsovercashiers.com/

Charles Pegge
22-11-2011, 23:07
Timothy Good Interview

http://www.richplanet.net/detail.php?dbindex=156

Charles Pegge
19-12-2011, 22:58
UFO being transported by truck!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fd7GP8Vs2Yw

kryton9
20-12-2011, 04:24
UFO being transported by truck!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fd7GP8Vs2Yw

Secret military drone or craft of some sort-- I would say. Why they would transport it during the day and not fly it at night is the question? Perhaps is doesn't fly and is just a design model going for wind tests?

REDEBOLT
20-12-2011, 07:55
It's obviously a weather balloon.

:evil::wink:

danbaron
21-12-2011, 21:09
From the one picture (in the linked article below) of it I saw, it looks to me like a boat.

You need water for a boat to transport itself.

I know, most likely it is not a boat.

Anyway, Northrop Grumman says it is a drone.

That would seem to make sense, because today, I think drones are one of the few things which the US manufactures.

But, if it is a drone, of course, average Americans should not be permitted to see it, right?

Because, in America, average Americans don't count for anything, yes or no?

http://the2012scenario.com/2011/12/was-ufo-towed-down-kansas-street-the-truth-is-out-there/#more-85873

Charles Pegge
24-12-2011, 12:32
Space Invaders as seen through night-vision goggles.

http://blip.tv/richplanetnet/richplanet-tv-ufos-and-the-secret-space-programme-5834332

kryton9
28-12-2011, 06:05
Thanks Charles that was a good video about what Ed Grimley and others are seeing. I have seen and heard a few stories of people who visit with him and all of them end up seeing tons of stuff with is equipment.
That doctored shuttle launch photo, was something to see too. Let me know if you find any video of the battles.

This video was good in that it answered a lot of questions I always had when seeing videos. Like bugs, dust reflections etc. But when you see the things turn direction and change speed dramatically it is hard to ignore.

Charles Pegge
11-01-2012, 23:54
Statistical trends in UFO sightings

database
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports.html
monthly sightings
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxevent.html
--->
Trend Reports
http://www.openminds.tv/ufo-trends/
http://www.openminds.tv/analyzing-august-2011-ufo-wave-802/


http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/Sightings-by-year.jpg


http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011-by-Month.jpg

kryton9
19-01-2012, 03:15
I never used night vision, but there were some incredible things going on in this video.

The best stuff starts around 3:50 to the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4utTbJ6b-Tg&feature=player_embedded

They also have after the military bagdad video what sure looks like what everyone described the night of the Phoenix lights, a huge V shaped vehicle.

Charles Pegge
11-02-2012, 12:09
27 Sept 2010

Military testimony concerning UFOs and the deactivation of nuclear missiles.

Transcript

http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/ufo_disclosure_conference_at_the_national_press_club_washington_09-27-10_en.html


Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI&feature=player_embedded

kryton9
14-02-2012, 03:05
Project Disclosure was on a roll and was going to be brought forward to Congress, but then 9-11 happened and it took all the momentum that had built up out of the sails. Even though they had an incredible press conference and the same the following few years, it just can't seem to gain traction. The good thing is high ranking officials are on record and willing to testify under oath to all they know, but they need Congress to grant them immunity from any secrecy oaths they are bound by to tell and produce evidence.

I think there are too many other deeper concerns unfortunately facing the people of earth, like what the big banks(illuminati) are doing to ruin our currencies and to go on a single world currency to make it easier for them to rule their sheeple herds.

kryton9
21-02-2012, 03:34
China might be releasing new photos, showing buildings on the moon.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread811295/pg1

kryton9
05-03-2012, 21:34
Very interesting photo of a lunar anomaly. Scroll down to see the photos.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread816050/pg1

Charles Pegge
10-04-2012, 15:18
On yahoo news: millions of email subscribers will see this topic.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/ufo-video-seoul-south-korea.html

Daily Mail Coverage

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2127141/UFO-filmed-zooming-passenger-plane-Seoul-South-Korea.html?ITO=1490


Original YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qx23sJfiLs


Fleet of UFOs over Seoul Aug 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0-bczBZSx4

zak
10-04-2012, 17:52
the reflection of the sun light are the same as on the buildings. a positive sign.
from the number of the video watchers we can see how much the people are eager for a change .

kryton9
30-04-2012, 17:50
This is great. Norway has a University and its scientists getting data and they can't explain what they have. So it is very exciting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzI3s7V5DKU&feature=g-vrec

Charles Pegge
01-05-2012, 11:30
It cant be weather balloons so it must be unusual weather conditions. :D

Charles Pegge
05-05-2012, 22:42
Timothy Good: Secret Space Program Conference Amsterdam 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y5TMUibbds

kryton9
06-05-2012, 03:25
I look forward to watching this later tonight, thanks Charles! I listened to John Lear, Richard Hoagland on these matters so another perspective will be great to watch and hear.

Charles Pegge
13-05-2012, 15:22
The seduction of Antonio Villas Boas 1957

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/boas-abduction.htm

Charles Pegge
18-05-2012, 14:49
Disclosure Scenarios



UFO/ET Disclosure Scenarios with Richard Dolan and Bryce Zabel 1..9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=GzD06UU68ok


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=UuLp4Y7GezM

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kryton9
19-05-2012, 06:31
The seduction of Antonio Villas Boas 1957

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/boas-abduction.htm

The drawing of the female's face reminds me of the girl in the video, at least the faces:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/104308/Lemurian_Elohim_Alien_Hybrid_Female/

Charles Pegge
08-07-2012, 16:19
Chelmsford, England June 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzSKsma0mFw

Charles Pegge
10-07-2012, 12:25
With helicopter circling.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8gSI09Tmg

Charles Pegge
05-08-2012, 12:52
http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-crash-investigator-leonard-stringfield-s-research-goes-public

kryton9
05-08-2012, 22:18
I was hoping with all the activity a few months ago in the UK, they(UFOS) would make a show at the Olympics. How cool would that be? !!!!

kryton9
05-08-2012, 22:23
[QUOTE=Charles Pegge;86980]Chelmsford, England June 2012

At first I thought a fake, but then later when zoomed out and with the movements, it sure looked real. I had not seen this video, so thanks.

kryton9
25-08-2012, 07:10
This is a mind blower. Check out all the links before you shrug this off as fake. But, what in the world?
Click on the YouTube link under the video, to take you to the site to find the links. Make sure to click on More to see
the direct photo links from NASA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRXOPn1uXAw&feature=related

Time Magazine: Three weeks ago, headlines announced that the U.S. had detected a mysterious "dark" satellite wheeling overhead on a regular orbit. There was nervous speculation that it might be a surveillance satellite launched by the Russians, and it brought the uneasy sensation that the U.S. did not know what was going on over its own head. But last week the Department of Defense proudly announced that the satellite had been identified. It was a space derelict, the remains of an Air Force Discoverer satellite that had gone astray. The dark satellite was the first...

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,894745,00.html#ixzz24X3pIqFQ

It can't be one of our satellites, just look at the images. WOW!

Petr Schreiber
25-08-2012, 09:22
The piece reminds me a bit of the Reapers from Mass Effect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9hdrJLEwi8&feature=relmfu


Petr

Charles Pegge
25-08-2012, 11:24
This mysterious satelite has a history:

Black Knight Satellite


http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=3808.0

kryton9
25-08-2012, 22:29
The mass effect video sure looks like that thing. I just hope it doesn't act like them!! But with a history of over at least 100 years being spotted or heard from by radio, it seems dormant. Maybe once we get private space missions the truth will come out.

kryton9
07-09-2012, 01:38
Interesting light UFO type objects from Mars Rover. Explanation blemishes in the camera.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2192008/Are-Martian-overlords---just-dead-pixels-camera-Images-beamed-Curiosity-lead-talk-UFOs-Mars.html

Keira Bloom
09-05-2018, 19:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgZE8s0hBRQ&feature=youtu.be

Happened in Zimbabwe