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kryton9
29-08-2010, 01:03
I suffer from depression and although it has been under control the last couple of years, I have been feeling overwhelmed lately being on my own trying to code something like a game engine. Although I have made big progress in my c++, it just seems there is so much to do... anyways in looking for motivation I came across this song and video. I found it very inspiring and it sounds great on my Klipsch computer speakers. I thought I would share it with you guys and hope others get inspiration from it too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWxBrI0g1kE&ob=av2e

danbaron
29-08-2010, 08:26
[font=courier new][size=8pt]My experience is that depression comes from feeling powerless and alone.

The more financial security a person has, the easier it is to avoid those feelings, because the more financial security he has, the more survival power he has. And, almost always, greater survival power breeds feelings of superiority over those with less survival power. Also, with money comes social interaction. Without money, comes social isolation.

With 7 billion people alive today, we live in an age where every single person is instantaneously replaceable. And therefore, as we are seeing, a person (with less than extreme wealth) can lose his financial security in a flash. And, when it is gone, along with it goes the inflated self esteem. And the person's sense of being special, quickly evaporates.

Every human being is fundamentally the same, and has the same ultimate fate. Saying that one human is better than another, is like saying that one mouse is better than another. For any two random people, in my opinion, the only place where Person A is overall superior to Person B, is between Person A's ears.

The way the world is now, paradoxically, it may be that depression is an indicator of emotional health, and happiness is an indicator of delusion. What I mean is that, normal emotion is consistent with the situation. If the situation is realistically bad, the future realistically looks bad, and the individual is powerless to improve his prospects for survival, then, I think, depression is the normal human response. Additionally, to me, someone who is happy because he is extremely wealthy and has a very easy life, and who insulates himself from, and is indifferent to the plight of the vast majority of the others of his own species that are killing each other in the struggle to survive; to me, that person is emotionally and morally sub-normal (maybe mentally sub-normal, too).

For some, religious belief alleviates depression in seemingly hopeless situations, for others, it doesn't. Some are convinced that belief corresponds to an unseen, but objective reality. Others are convinced it is only an evolutionary construction of the mind, with the purpose of preventing people from giving up - thereby making it more likely that they will have and raise offspring, sending their genes into the future.

On a happier note, last night on Coast-To-Coast (radio), Linda Moulton Howe was on, talking about alien abductions and dissections of people.

:oops: :x :twisted:
Dan

zlatkoAB
29-08-2010, 11:36
My advice will be (im like a E.K) drink bear and stay tune...

kryton9
30-08-2010, 00:26
Thanks guys for the advice, the depression is under control, just a bit down, nothing a little motivation can't cure. I find listening to or watching things that inspire me really help to recharge my batteries and get inspiration and that song and video is one that I really like and wanted to share.

Michael Clease
30-08-2010, 00:52
My advice will be (im like a E.K) drink bear and stay tune...


Drinking bears sounds quite cruel and I dont think the local zoo would let me :lol:

Mood is often linked to lunar cycles if you want to see the true nut jobs spend a night at your local hospital A&E when you have a full moon, just think where the term lunatic comes from not that I'm calling you a loony Kent.

Anyway I'm off to howl at the moon

Ahh-wooooooo

danbaron
30-08-2010, 07:11
[font=courier new][size=8pt]Probably everyone suffers from anxiety and depression. I think people who are in the house alone, are more vulnerable to it. When there is more than one person,
then each can help the other. When a person is isolated, every fear that comes into his head, seems legitimate. When you're scared, you're scared, right? When
things seem hopeless, they seem hopeless. It's hard to reason yourself out of your own fears. Once you're an adult, mom and dad are no longer there to comfort
you. That's why communication with others is vital. Humans are social animals, there's no dispute. When people are afraid, they congregate, like a herd of
sheep - think about people attending church on Sunday. Long ago, people shared their troubles, within their small communities. Today, isolation is the norm.
Often, people have few friends, few people with whom they share a common history. The result is emotional troubles. People's psychological needs are the same
today, as they were thousands of years ago. When those needs aren't met, unhappiness is automatic. I think that in days gone by, ostracization from the tribe,
was just about the most severe punishment. Artists are often emotionally unstable, they can be prisoners of their feelings. In the best case, artists connect
with people who are emotionally stable. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Artists are more creative, but they also can be extremely sensitive, easily
unnerved. The stable person may be extroverted and optimistic, but also unable to create. Like you, sometimes I find listening to Coast-To-Coast to be
therapeutic. You feel like you are in the room with other people. The conversations are about things which are light years removed from the problems of daily
life. The topics always hint at possible realities that are much better than what we know. Those topics provide hope that there will be a happy ending, for all
of us.

(Probably they don't still do it in Europe, but absolutely they do it here. In American prisons, the worst punishment is solitary confinement. Bush did it to
prisoners at Guantanamo (actually, Bush did even more by adding sensory deprivation and physical torture). They do it in state and federal prisons. There are 6
classifications of federal prisons here. Level 6, is the worst. A prisoner there never has contact with other prisoners. Solitary confinement, is emotional
torture. Often people never recover from it. Those in it, seem to slowly lose their minds, often attempting suicide, rather than continuing to endure the
emotional pain. I saw a show on Nat Geo about the Colorado State Prison. The hardest to control prisoners in Colorado, are sent there. Once an inmate is there,
almost any infraction results in solitary confinement. This often leads to a downward spiral. When the inmate is in solitary confinement, over time he becomes
so distraught, that he refuses to comply with the orders of the guards, often, "acting out". When the prisoner does that, additional time is added onto his
sentence (by a committee, there is no trial). In the show, they followed one prisoner, who was originally sentenced, I think, to 11 years. He broke some rule,
and was sent to solitary confinement. Once there, his behavior deteriorated, and at the end of the show, his sentence had been lengthened to, 96 years, if I
remember correctly. The show also highlighted the elaborate lengths the inmates go to in attempts to communicate with one another, passing notes, tapping on
pipes, etc. So, I guess my point is, that isolation breeds depression.)

:( ;)
Dan

jcfuller
30-08-2010, 11:39
Dan,
I must be from another planet because none of what you said pertains to me.
I am a recluse who is never depressed. The closest I get is mild frustration. I bound out of bed every day like a kid on Christmas morning.
I can't wait to get started on the day and make new discoveries.
A lot of my make up may relate to me being an only child whose parents are both only children.

James

Michael Hartlef
30-08-2010, 15:56
What people forget about depression most of the time is that it also can be caused by a disbalance or lack of certain chemicals in your body. And this you can't get rid off by a kick in your but or through good talks with a specialist. Then you need medication.

kryton9
30-08-2010, 17:56
Did anyone else like the music? hehehehehe

One thing, if you have anxiety or depression have it looked in too. Anxiety is the second worse cause of heart damage after smoking. What is funny is that I am a very positive person and usually have a smile on my face. Even when I presented stuff when in school, I would inside be an emotional wreck and a ball of anxiety that would feel like I was going to pass out at any minute. But my teachers and professors would say that it never showed in my presentations and that I always looked calm and in control. So I guess living with it so long, I knew how to hide it.

After my heart treatments, the hospital I was in offered free classes about my condition, congestive heart failure. They had some really great Doctors, Nurses and Pharmacists presenting on different aspects of the condition. One was a Psychiatrist and he showed slides of a normal red blood cell. It was nice and smooth and rounded in shape. He then showed the red blood cell of someone with Anxiety and you would not believe it. That round smooth cell, was now like a highly spiked ball mace. Now with the spikes, the blood cells would stick together instead of glancing off each other when rounded and smooth. This as you can imagine lead to bigger and bigger clots and blockage. It is really an eye opener to see the difference.

I think you can be happy alone as jcfuller wrote. Happiness has to come from within. But I do think that we for the most part as Dan said are social animals. Being with like minded folks and to share thoughts and experiences up or down does have positive effects for the individual and the group.

Just as with these posts here, I feel energized and ready to get back to creating! Thanks guys.

danbaron
30-08-2010, 21:13
[font=courier new][size=8pt]Kent:
There was a doctor on Coast-To-Coast last week, talking about a simple stem cell treatment for congestive heart failure that seems to have amazing results. I bet you can find out about it at the Coast-To-Coast website.

James:
To me, you are a good exception.
I think everyone would like to be perfectly emotionally independent, but for most it's only a dream.

Dan

Michael Hartlef
30-08-2010, 22:17
Did anyone else like the music? hehehehehe


Sorry Kent but I wasn't able to listen to it. I get the "Sorry but the Video contains content of WMG, so you can watch it in your country" message.

Edit: Which band and song is it?

kryton9
30-08-2010, 22:47
That's strange that You tube would do that. Especially since they are now playing music videos with ads to buy the cd's from the labels.

The band is Disturbed, the song is Indestructible. It really gets your heart pumping watching the video and the lyrics are really quite good too with the awesome music.
I still think of them as a new band, but it has been 10 years since they formed, another-- decade flying by mystery.

kryton9
30-08-2010, 22:53
[font=courier new][size=8pt]Kent:
There was a doctor on Coast-To-Coast last week, talking about a simple stem cell treatment for congestive heart failure that seems to have amazing results. I bet you can find out about it at the Coast-To-Coast website.

James:
To me, you are a good exception.
I think everyone would like to be perfectly emotionally independent, but for most it's only a dream.

Dan



I ask my Doctor every time I see he him on my 6 month checkups about stem cell treatments. I already participated in a research program for one of the medicines I take for my heart. It was fun being a lab rat. I told me Doctor, sign me up for Stem Cell trials, I am willing. It sure looks promising. I heard about promising stuff way back in 2003 with stem cells being injected into dead heart cells after heart attacks and the incredible improvements. That study was in the University of Arizona.

One of the Doctors lecturing in the hospital classes was a young Cardiologist saying how stem cells were going to change the face of medicine. That what we do today, well this was in 2006... in 20 years will seem primitive.

I thought by now stem cell would have been at least in more widespread trials.

Michael Hartlef
31-08-2010, 07:56
That's strange that You tube would do that. Especially since they are now playing music videos with ads to buy the cd's from the labels.

The band is Disturbed, the song is Indestructible. It really gets your heart pumping watching the video and the lyrics are really quite good too with the awesome music.
I still think of them as a new band, but it has been 10 years since they formed, another-- decade flying by mystery.


Yeah, good band and song. I like the voice and the way he sings. Not absolutely my favorite type of metal but good anyway. I am more into bands like Manowar... Hammerfall, or Iron Maiden and Kiss. And many more!
Recently I also listen to a lot of Irish folk and pagan folk music. Omnia and Faun for an example.

Listening to metal always can bring my mood up big time.

zlatkoAB
31-08-2010, 09:59
Yeah many heavy metal bands have greats easy songs
(rock balade) like for example:Poison
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Rose_Has_Its_Thorn

kryton9
31-08-2010, 23:05
I never heard of Hammerfall, will check them out on youtube Mike.

Aurel, Poison was a good band in its day, I really liked their video on that big wide stage, it was a new design and really gave the sense of space. I never forget that.

danbaron
01-09-2010, 06:16
[font=courier new][size=8pt]Kent, on August 25th, Christian Wilde was on Coast-To-Coast, along with Dr. Nabil Dib. Christian Wilde has at least one book about heart disease.

http://www.abigon.com/page/page/448087.htm

It was apparent that Wilde believes Dr. Dib has developed revolutionary stem cell treatments for the heart. Here is Dr. Dib's website.

http://www.heartsciencescenter.com/

Dan

kryton9
02-09-2010, 03:21
Thanks Dan. I will read through it and print out stuff to give to my Cardiologist next visit.