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Petr Schreiber
03-04-2010, 18:44
Hi guys,

have you ever been to Magdeburg?
I am heading that way on 15th, can you recommend some hotel you have good experience with in there?


Thanks,
Petr

zak
03-04-2010, 21:01
i wish you happy journey, it seems from google a very beautifull city

kryton9
04-04-2010, 09:09
'Madge'burg, is that anywhere near 'Homer'ville :) Have a great trip Petr!

Michael Hartlef
04-04-2010, 10:17
Have a nice trip Petr. I am sure you will enjoy it. After the wall was taken down, all the west states gave and still give so much money to east germany, that here everything goes down and there they have so much money to plaster the walls with. So it should be a nice environment.

Petr Schreiber
05-04-2010, 10:37
Thanks guys,

it looks like interesting place, even if nothing else, it should bring new opportunity to shoot textures :)


Petr

D.J.Peters
05-04-2010, 17:00
Madgeburg as texture pack ha ha ha
*the end of culture

have a nice trip

Joshy
(*only fun)

Lionheart008
05-04-2010, 22:19
perhaps a tipp with "magdeburg tourist info". they have a database for all hotels or cheaper "pension". first page I send you find an overview for all infos, next page special infos about hotels or "pensionen" you can choose. you have to fill the places (cells) what your will pay for it and how long you are staying there.

people from easter germany are very kind and friendly you will have luck to find cheaper hotel I am sure :)

1) http://www.magdeburg-tourist.de/Tourismus_Freizeit/%C3%9Cbernachten/

2) http://www.magdeburg-tourist.de/index.phtml?&sNavID=115.119&mNavID=37.9&NavID=115.119&object=tx|115.265.1

bye, frank (out some days for easter holidays)

Petr Schreiber
05-04-2010, 22:26
Thanks for the tip Frank!

Petr Schreiber
14-04-2010, 18:27
I'm leaving tomorrow as planned, the hotel was arranged today :lol:, although we were trying to find one since the time I made the first post here.

If anyone is heading to RoboCup German Open 2010 (http://www.robocup-german-open.de/), he might see there one odd guy with even weirder English. It will be the author of this post.

Have a nice time here, I am afraid I will not be able to connect to net during the 4 days, so I will respond any requests once back.


Petr

Charles Pegge
14-04-2010, 20:45
This event has very ambitious goals Petr! Is your group participating or observing?

Charles

Petr Schreiber
14-04-2010, 22:06
Hi Charles,

this year we will just observe, and if possible exchange ideas with other people from robotics.
Multiple robots collaborating with each other is quite complicated problem.


Petr

Michael Hartlef
14-04-2010, 22:26
I'm leaving tomorrow as planned, the hotel was arranged today :lol:, although we were trying to find one since the time I made the first post here.

If anyone is heading to RoboCup German Open 2010 (http://www.robocup-german-open.de/), he might see there one odd guy with even weirder English. It will be the author of this post.

Have a nice time here, I am afraid I will not be able to connect to net during the 4 days, so I will respond any requests once back.


Petr


I wish you a great trip. Hopefully the weather is a nice as here the last couple of days.

Take care!

christianssen
15-04-2010, 08:21
hello petr. we have had a discussion last weeks with our teacher to visit robocup. but there were not enough time and money to go for this adventure event. I am very sad about that, but our chief of school (director) hasn't seen any chance only for visiting this robocup event. it's always the same, some of parents haven't enough money or the school plan doesn't permit to do such a trip during examination time.

good luck and get new impressions and ideas. sounds very exciting to know more about robotics and for example how they're playing or fighting against each another. perhaps next year we can also come to robocup event. there was to few time to make better preparations for it. nice time for you and your collegues. bye, denis

Petr Schreiber
19-04-2010, 20:48
Hi guys!,

the trip was simply awesome, weather fine, people fine, robots fine, everything fine :)
I attach few photos for you, to get some idea of robots present in the event.


Petr

kryton9
20-04-2010, 01:14
Nice photos Petr. I wanted to see a match between the mini-asimos versus the daleks :)

D.J.Peters
20-04-2010, 05:42
where are the texture pack of magdeburg ?

do you visit the technical museum also ?

Joshy

Michael Hartlef
20-04-2010, 06:05
Cool shots. I am glad you had a good time.

Petr Schreiber
20-04-2010, 08:46
Hi Joshy,

I have few textures shot, but as we spent most of the time with robots, they are just few.
Once it will be ready, I will upload it on my website.

I have video from the event, but it is 200MB, need to find a way to make it smaller.


Petr

Charles Pegge
20-04-2010, 09:36
Hi Petr,

Glad it all went well. I see there is a bright future for robo sports. While robots can exceed human performance in specialised ways, making it small and mobile must present huge technical challenges. Were the robots under remote computer control or were they all truly autonomous?

Charles

Petr Schreiber
20-04-2010, 10:03
Hi Charles,

they were fully autonomous, that was the rule.
What was interesting, those nice human like white robots are standard models, the teams had to code just the AI.

In case of black "pyramid" robots, there was lot of custom constructions. Some were not very smart, but some managed such a tricks as to bypass enemy in path by firing balloon over its top, go around the enemy and catch the balloon.

Interesting programming challenge for sure!


Petr

zak
20-04-2010, 10:19
welcome Petr
i think the commercial future for robots is for the home service autonomous robots, more advanced than pets, cleaning houses, making food in the kitchen, help the disabled going to the toilet, playing chess to amuse an old man or woman, authoring jokes with variations, and if we ask for 12.23 + 123 it/he/she will provide answer,
but safety is more important, there must be algorithms to prevent robots from causing damage or attacking humans.

Petr Schreiber
20-04-2010, 20:40
Hi Zak,

I agree with you. There was a section with human interaction robots.

For example, the robot with the hat could detect multiple faces, and when being in such a group of people, he jumped with eyes from one face to another, even with eyes blinking, it looked very natural.

Then there was another humanoid robot, which could remember face, and if you ordered a drink and went to other place, he seeked for the human with your face to deliver the drink.

I am in process of uploading video to Vimeo, but it already takes 9 hours, and it reports "some complications with conversion" they are fixing now. Once ready, I will post a link here. One thing is to see photos, but second is to see it all in motion.


Petr

Petr Schreiber
21-04-2010, 23:22
Hi guys,

I managed to upload my video from event to Vimeo, watch it here to see some bots in motion :):
http://vimeo.com/11111859


Petr

Charles Pegge
21-04-2010, 23:53
Many thanks for the video Petr,

Those robots were very impressive and very funny at the same time. I am sure it took a huge amount of work to get the AI working as well as the mechanical aspects.

Charles

kryton9
22-04-2010, 09:26
nice video Petr. The black pyramids, I tell you they are the start of The Daleks. I think for soccer they were the best, speed, accuracy, the humanoid robots had no chance. I like the humanoid goalie, he fell to cover the ball, that was a good laugh. Simple ai: see ball, lay down perpendicular to coming ball.

The white "mini-assimo" the one that kept falling down... At first I thought he was pretending to be a player who falls on purpose hoping to get a foul called on opposing the team. His falls were just as humorous as when seeing real humans do prank falls.

Petr Schreiber
22-04-2010, 09:49
The white "mini-assimo" the one that kept falling down... At first I thought he was pretending to be a player who falls on purpose hoping to get a foul called on opposing the team.

:lol: That did not occurred to me.

One of the interesting sides of robot football is that there are no fouls, and the players do not get tired (only destroyed, as extreme case). The "Daleks" were the best for playing football. But that depended on team, for example guys from India totally ruled similarly constructed competitors, by invading their half for almost whole time of match, passing ball from one player to another and moving very fast. Each team had different strategy.

The goal keepers were not very much developed in all the teams, their success was mostly based on luck, when the attacking bot will shoot directly into them.


Petr